on 05-09-2023 19:43
Hi
not sure if this is the right place, but my broadband has been a bit temperamental since Friday.
The issue checker says there is a TV problem in our area but Broadband is fine. Not sure I trust this though.
For the last few days though the connection has been fairly bad with intermittent high pings and lost packets.
Is there anyone from Virgin who can check this please?
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06-09-2023 15:14 - edited 06-09-2023 15:16
The only concern is the PostRS error levels - but they may be historic accumulation. Can you do this...
Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing. When its light, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables.
Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing and accumulating with time - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and any up" T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort."
You will have to drop back to router mode at some point so they can check whether any of your connected equipment is actually causing the issue. As there have been several threads on here recently where similar BQM latency/packet loss problems were eventually pinned down to a dodgy piece of connected kit affecting the connection . Bad connectors on ethernet cables and faulty network switches being high on the list of culprits.
Examples. See message 21 in the first thread - and 13 in the second.
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Internet-connection-dropping/td-p/4781287/p...
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Intermittent-Connection/td-p/5069984/page/2
on 05-09-2023 19:55
What is reported on the “free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues and fix estimates, down to street cab/ postcode level.
What Hub model is it and is it in normal router mode? What pieces of equipment are connected to it on ethernet cables ?
on 05-09-2023 19:58
Status looks like this:
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 | 203000000 | 0.7 | 40 | 256 qam | 9 |
2 | 211000000 | 0.5 | 40 | 256 qam | 10 |
3 | 219000000 | 0.2 | 40 | 256 qam | 11 |
4 | 227000000 | 0.5 | 40 | 256 qam | 12 |
5 | 235000000 | 0.4 | 40 | 256 qam | 13 |
6 | 243000000 | -0.2 | 40 | 256 qam | 14 |
7 | 251000000 | 0 | 40 | 256 qam | 15 |
8 | 259000000 | 0 | 40 | 256 qam | 16 |
9 | 267000000 | 0 | 40 | 256 qam | 17 |
10 | 275000000 | 0 | 40 | 256 qam | 18 |
11 | 283000000 | 0 | 40 | 256 qam | 19 |
12 | 291000000 | -0.2 | 40 | 256 qam | 20 |
13 | 299000000 | 0.2 | 38 | 256 qam | 21 |
14 | 307000000 | 0.7 | 40 | 256 qam | 22 |
15 | 315000000 | 0.5 | 40 | 256 qam | 23 |
16 | 323000000 | 0.2 | 40 | 256 qam | 24 |
17 | 331000000 | 0.7 | 40 | 256 qam | 25 |
18 | 339000000 | 0.9 | 40 | 256 qam | 26 |
19 | 347000000 | 1 | 40 | 256 qam | 27 |
20 | 355000000 | 1.4 | 40 | 256 qam | 28 |
21 | 363000000 | 1 | 40 | 256 qam | 29 |
22 | 371000000 | 0.2 | 40 | 256 qam | 30 |
23 | 379000000 | 0.5 | 40 | 256 qam | 31 |
24 | 387000000 | 0.7 | 40 | 256 qam | 32 |
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 | Locked | 40.9 | 85186 | 7723 |
2 | Locked | 40.3 | 84383 | 7546 |
3 | Locked | 40.9 | 83159 | 7460 |
4 | Locked | 40.9 | 69467 | 4750 |
5 | Locked | 40.3 | 53328 | 2809 |
6 | Locked | 40.3 | 44627 | 2259 |
7 | Locked | 40.3 | 31931 | 1340 |
8 | Locked | 40.3 | 29520 | 1210 |
9 | Locked | 40.9 | 34479 | 1666 |
10 | Locked | 40.3 | 33267 | 1469 |
11 | Locked | 40.9 | 29846 | 956 |
12 | Locked | 40.3 | 26938 | 529 |
13 | Locked | 38.9 | 19560 | 161 |
14 | Locked | 40.3 | 12782 | 22 |
15 | Locked | 40.3 | 13773 | 28 |
16 | Locked | 40.3 | 14858 | 57 |
17 | Locked | 40.3 | 11169 | 38 |
18 | Locked | 40.3 | 9186 | 71 |
19 | Locked | 40.9 | 5448 | 75 |
20 | Locked | 40.3 | 2883 | 52 |
21 | Locked | 40.3 | 2924 | 50 |
22 | Locked | 40.3 | 4601 | 73 |
23 | Locked | 40.3 | 4584 | 78 |
24 | Locked | 40.3 | 4559 | 94 |
on 05-09-2023 20:02
Nothing reported on that 0800 number.
The device is in Modem mode, connected to a Synology router. I am loathe to put it back into Router Mode as it will break my whole network. I'm hoping that the error counts I posted are helpful here..
on 05-09-2023 20:11
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 | 43100000 | 47.8 | 5120 | 64 qam | 2 |
2 | 49600000 | 48 | 5120 | 64 qam | 1 |
3 | 30100000 | 47.5 | 5120 | 64 qam | 4 |
4 | 23600132 | 47 | 5120 | 64 qam | 5 |
5 | 36600000 | 47.5 | 5120 | 64 qam | 3 |
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
2 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
3 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
4 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
5 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
06-09-2023 15:14 - edited 06-09-2023 15:16
The only concern is the PostRS error levels - but they may be historic accumulation. Can you do this...
Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing. When its light, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables.
Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing and accumulating with time - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and any up" T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort."
You will have to drop back to router mode at some point so they can check whether any of your connected equipment is actually causing the issue. As there have been several threads on here recently where similar BQM latency/packet loss problems were eventually pinned down to a dodgy piece of connected kit affecting the connection . Bad connectors on ethernet cables and faulty network switches being high on the list of culprits.
Examples. See message 21 in the first thread - and 13 in the second.
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Internet-connection-dropping/td-p/4781287/p...
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Intermittent-Connection/td-p/5069984/page/2
on 07-09-2023 13:57
I had a look at my Synology router yesterday evening.
In an effort to avoid the factory reset option I started having a poke about in the config.
One of the security apps - Threat Prevention - was enabled. This performs Deep Packet Inspection, logging to a USB stick. See https://kb.synology.com/en-global/SRM/help/ThreatPrevention/threatprevention_desc?version=1_3
I disabled this and popped the USB stick out and my ping tests seemed to stabilize. Also, the error counts on the Virgin modem were not incrementing.
I then stuck in a new USB stick, formatted it, and then re-enabled the Threat Prevention app.
Pings seem OK and the graph is a lot better..
I'll check error counts tomorrow and compare.
So thanks jbrennand for the links. I assumed that modem error counts were between the modem and the street, but upstream router can affect this obviously.