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Drop off in initial broadband speeds

MacRencephal
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I am fairly new here so please be gentle!

In brief, my query is I have seen a big drop off (c.25%) in my broadband speed after three weeks and I'm curious what might have caused this and what I can do about it, if anything.

In more detail, I had 1Gig broadband installed in mid-March. For the first three and a half weeks when doing a speedtest it was showing download speeds of 1100Mbps+. I was very happy with this. It was consistently around that speed. However, for the last few days when running the same test on the same device in the same position relative to the router I am getting download speeds in the 800s with it not even reaching 900Mbps.

Don't get me wrong - that is still much quicker than I was getting with my previous provider, but it is very disappointing to me that it has dropped by around 25% from what I was initially (and consistently) getting.

I get there is inherently variability in speed depending on a number of factors, but nothing has changed in that time in terms of additional devices, usage of the wifi / broadband when doing the test, etc. etc. so I don't understand why there has been such a big drop off.

I'm hoping someone can explain to me a) what might be causing such a big drop off and b) whether there is anything I can do about it.

Thanks

Mac

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Adduxi
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What does www.samknows.com/realspeed show ?

Post your power levels and network log.   Also setup a BQM to monitor your incoming circuit  www.thinkbroadband.com/ping

Once done we can comment.

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Thanks, Adduxi

Samknows is showing router download speed 1138. I don't understand what "post your power levels and network log" means or how and where to find that information, sorry.

I have set-up a Broadband Quality Monitor but this (obviously) doesn't have any results yet. Will post once it's been running for a while.

Thanks

Mac

newapollo
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Hi Mac,

There are a lot of tech guru's on the forum that can look into your issues but when posting the hub stats they need the full details from the Router Status page. So please  copy/paste 3 FULL sets of data onto here (not screenshots) – from the Downstream, Upstream, & Network Logs pages. 

You need to type 192.168.0.1 into a browser and then click on "Check Router Status" below the log in screen to access the stats.

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Tudor
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How to get stats from a VM hub (no need to logon to the hub)

Open a web browser and go to 192.168.0.1 router mode or 192.168.100.1 modem mode

  • Click on the “> Check router status” button
  • Click on the “Downstream” tab, copy the text and paste into your reply, do not take a screen shot
  • Click on the “Upstream” tab, copy the text and paste into your reply
  • Click on the “Networking” tab, copy the text and paste into your reply.
    • Do NOT post photos or screen shots they will be rejected as they contain MAC addresses. The board software will automatically change MAC addresses to **:** if done as above.

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@MacRencephal wrote:

Thanks, Adduxi

Samknows is showing router download speed 1138. I don't understand what "post your power levels and network log" means or how and where to find that information, sorry.

I have set-up a Broadband Quality Monitor but this (obviously) doesn't have any results yet. Will post once it's been running for a while.

Thanks

Mac


Based on the speed to the HUB being OK, and your wording in the original post, I'm assuming you are using a WiFi device, presumably WiFi-6 with the speeds posted?

There are many external factors that cause slower WiFi speeds, including other WiFi networks in the local area causing interference.

As suggested, logs are as below.

Thanks

Mac

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
14110000002.340QAM 2561
24190000002.340QAM 2562
34270000002.440QAM 2563
44350000002.540QAM 2564
54430000002.540QAM 2565
64510000002.640QAM 2566
74590000002.640QAM 2567
84670000002.740QAM 2568
94750000002.940QAM 2569
104830000003.140QAM 25610
114910000003.340QAM 25611
124990000003.240QAM 25612
135070000003.240QAM 25613
145150000003.440QAM 25614
155230000003.440QAM 25615
165310000003.640QAM 25616
175390000003.740QAM 25617
185470000003.840QAM 25618
19555000000441QAM 25619
205630000004.241QAM 25620
215710000004.340QAM 25621
225790000004.341QAM 25622
235870000004.341QAM 25623
245950000004.541QAM 25624
256030000004.541QAM 25625
266110000004.641QAM 25626
276190000004.841QAM 25627
286270000004.941QAM 25628
29635000000541QAM 25629
306430000005.241QAM 25630
316510000005.241QAM 25631

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked4094750
2Locked40118010
3Locked40102100
4Locked40100800
5Locked40103130
6Locked40140160
7Locked40177370
8Locked40206900
9Locked40216000
10Locked40210360
11Locked40209740
12Locked40227360
13Locked40223120
14Locked40206100
15Locked40213120
16Locked40209260
17Locked40216550
18Locked40220700
19Locked41192270
20Locked41182760
21Locked40161540
22Locked41164330
23Locked41166460
24Locked41148740
25Locked41162550
26Locked41139070
27Locked41127410
28Locked41114400
29Locked41101370
30Locked4185030
31Locked4182630

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
060300000355120QAM 641
15370000035.35120QAM 642
24620000035.85120QAM 643
339400000365120QAM 644
432600000365120QAM 649
523600000365120QAM 6410

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
0ATDMA0000
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0010
5ATDMA0000

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description
06-04-2023 23:44:39errorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
04-04-2023 18:28:00noticeREGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status
04-04-2023 18:27:53noticeDS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
04-04-2023 18:27:40warningDHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
04-04-2023 18:27:38noticeHonoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv4
04-04-2023 18:27:33criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
04-04-2023 18:27:30criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
04-04-2023 18:27:18criticalCable Modem reboot from UI
15-03-2023 15:16:05criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:42:42criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:37:17criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:35:14criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:35:04criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:34:55criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
15-03-2023 14:34:42criticalCable Modem Reboot due to SW Upgrade
14-12-2022 13:55:36criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
 

Correct. I was using a wifi6 device on all occasions from the same position and therefore same distance from the router and using the same app to measure the speed. The outcomes were consistently 1100+ for three weeks but have now dropped off to c.850. I am just trying to understand why this has happened and what I might be able to do to get back to the previous speeds.

Thanks

Mac

Tudor
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Too many errors, but the figures are accumulative since the hub was last power cycled. So please turn off your hub for a short period, this will reset the counters, then post a new full set of stats after about two hours. This will indicate the current line status. 


Tudor
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That's annoying - I had reset and posted the updated logs here but it appears that post has disappeared. Very strange.