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SYNC Timing Sync failure, disconnects, SNR ratio seems fine

llamatronic
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Hello, 

Have a lot of SYNC Timing Synchronisation Failures turn up in my logs with the Internet basically stopping every 5-10 minutes and then recovering. Fine for streaming services with caching, useless for Teams meetings, Skype calls, and working from home. Logs and various details from upstream and downstream below, also have a ping log from ThinkBroadband that I'll try to post. The ping graph is interesting - the failures only seem to be happening when I'm actively using my connection. Oh btw, just to simply rule it out, can't be a wifi issue as my PC has a wired connection to the hub.

Network Log

Time Priority Description

04/12/2022 12:23:26Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:23:25criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:23:12Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:23:12criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:10:5Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:10:5criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:07:45Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:07:45criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:05:2Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:05:2criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:02:40Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 12:02:40criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:55:35Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:55:35criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:51:13Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:51:12criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:47:58Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:47:58criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:46:57Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
04/12/2022 11:46:57criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

12030000004.838256 qam9
2139000000137256 qam1
31470000002.438256 qam2
4155000000338256 qam3
51630000004.138256 qam4
61710000004.138256 qam5
71790000005.138256 qam6
81870000005.138256 qam7
91950000004.338256 qam8
102110000004.638256 qam10
112190000004.538256 qam11
122270000005.638256 qam12
132350000005.138256 qam13
142430000005.438256 qam14
152510000006.438256 qam15
162590000005.538256 qam16
172670000005.638256 qam17
182750000006.438256 qam18
192830000004.438256 qam19
20291000000638256 qam20
21299000000738256 qam21
223070000005.438256 qam22
233150000007.438256 qam23
243230000007.638256 qam24



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.927066074987453
2Locked37.3359647010568443
3Locked38.636235588803746
4Locked38.632744618279821
5Locked38.635282156872555
6Locked38.635761395741560
7Locked38.629249415196312
8Locked38.931056394803918
9Locked38.929929185335788
10Locked38.630739904904478
11Locked38.628268114420305
12Locked38.926167524271680
13Locked38.927634664218116
14Locked38.626542554267553
15Locked38.925281043778623
16Locked38.926370723258164
17Locked38.624778533553877
18Locked38.924660543497730
19Locked38.625839353662182
20Locked38.925322953577304
21Locked38.924975502972932
22Locked38.924647522469912
23Locked38.923332842248785
24Locked38.623514312019963
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@llamatronic wrote:

Hello, 

Well, this newest deadline of yours was over two weeks ago, and the issue clearly isn't resolved.


@Ashleigh_C wrote:

we can assure you our teams are doing all they can to get this resolved. 


I don't mean to besmirch the integrity of yourselves or the teams in question, but given that this issue has been ongoing since November of last year, I struggle to believe people are working terribly hard on the problem. Can you confirm the issue is actually still being worked on, and hasn't been closed?

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Regards,

lt


No, the reality of the situation is somewhat different to what is implied. Firstly we need to give the forum team member here a bit of a pass, they actually have not more insight as to the reality than my cat does (and he isn't the brightest cat on the planet!)

The implication does imply a crack team of highly qualified and capable engineers are actively working 24/7 on this particular issue. The truth is somewhat different, probably nobody is actually looking at this, it's on someones job list to investigate as long as something more vital doesn't crop up, like filling the coffee machine in the executive break room. And they will get around to it when and if...

Of course, possibly I'm entirely wrong, in which case, no doubt a member of the VM forum team will be along to refute this and give a definitive answer as to what is happening and the expected timelines😉

Thanks for that Jem, you're right I shouldn't expect miracles from the forum people, thought they are the only interface I have. 

Also, I'm sure your cat is very clever - he's just carefully managing expectations. 😄

Any thoughts from the forum team? My service continues to be unreliable, and I'm still using a 4G modem for work. Heading into the 5th month of this, which is making it difficult to believe that this is on anyone's radar at all. Maybe Virgin just doesn't need customers? That's the feeling I'm getting.

The problem on a shared line means one or more could be causing the problem but you don't know which so either VM find the problem or wait for people go to another ISP and then VM disconnect that line and find it to be the problem. Then that person moves out a new person moves in signs up for VM and see a problem or someone on the shared line with a BQM with the time and date it happened and VM can cross check any new installs in the area.
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Reece_MH
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi llamatronic 👋

I'm very sorry to hear that you're still experiencing problems with your service. I've taken a look on our side, and it does appear that the SNR fault has now been identified as resolved. However, I completely appreciate that your latest update is very recent, and after taking a look on our side, there are still some levels out of specification.

I can see that your Hub has been online for more than 10 days, and within this time, the fault has been fixed. Can you please try performing a full reboot by switching your Hub off at the back for 30 seconds, before switching it back on again?

This will refresh the connection to the network, and you should begin to see an improvement.

Thanks,

Reece - Forum Team


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