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Virgin 360 service level drops at peak times

We recently upgraded from TiVo to 360 with an internet speed boost from 125 to 250. Since then, whenever we are watching on catch up - usually iPlayer or Netflix/Prime in the evenings, the playback/streaming stalls several times during a show - often requiring us to come out and then back in to what we were watching. This never occurred prior to the "upgrade" and does not occur during the day. I have disconnected and re-booted the 360 and the hub several times and replaced the ethernet cable to the 360 with no improvement.

Any suggestions for what else I can try or does Virgin now drop service levels at peak times?

Thanks 

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Re: Virgin 360 service level drops at peak times

  • Have you done a speedtest - with other device(s)?  Preferably wired.
  • Anything obvious in the hub stats?
  • Can you access any of those apps/services another way, such as via those inbuilt on a smart TV e.g. the iPlayer app on another device - are they the same?

 

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Re: Virgin 360 service level drops at peak times

I've moved this post to the broadband forum as it sounds more like that, than a TV-service issue.

Some speed tests, BQM graphs & observations across different devices - are the next steps of troubleshooting.

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Re: Virgin 360 service level drops at peak times

Thank you

The blips tend to be very temporary so by the time I do a speed test, the system is already back to full speed. I have updated the firmware on my LAN  and will also try disconnecting the ethernet cable and streaming via wi-fi just to rule out a hardware issue with the LAN

Router status network log has the following entries which don't mean anything to me. I have cut out the Mac address in case this information is private

Time Priority Description

03/02/2023 09:09:12noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=ac:xxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/02/2023 09:07:47Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=ac:xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/02/2023 12:53:40criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/02/2023 10:48:23ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/02/2023 10:29:42criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=ac:fxxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
31/01/2023 12:50:40Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
29/01/2023 11:11:51ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:49:45criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=0xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:49:34criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=ac:fxxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx:55;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:49:34criticalRanging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=axxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:48:9criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:47:45criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=0xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:47:45criticalRanging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=ac:xxxxxxx:d9;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/01/2023 11:47:1criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=0xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/01/2023 21:24:56ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-xxxxxxx0:01:5c:7a:a8:55;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/01/2023 14:05:24criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/01/2023 14:05:0criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/01/2023 14:05:0criticalRanging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=0xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/01/2023 13:40:4criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx9;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx5;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/01/2023 13:40:4Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxxxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

 

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Re: Virgin 360 service level drops at peak times

I can't see anything abnormal in that log - can you post the other stats with the error count and so on - should be on other pages at 192.168.0.1 (don't even need to login).

As I mentioned before - can you try with different instances of the iPlayer and Prime, Netflix apps ?  On a PC, smart TV etc. rather than the TV360

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Sorry at 192.168.0.1 what I have posted are the only available stats under the network log tab - The Status/Downstream/Upstream/Configuration tabs don't have any useful data that look like error logs.

 

Over time I will work through your other suggestions thanks

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Also, If I log in to my router and run diagnostics, it gets about 30% of the way through the diagnostic wheel spin before kicking me back to the welcome sign in screen

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@SteveAldous wrote:

Sorry at 192.168.0.1 what I have posted are the only available stats under the network log tab - The Status/Downstream/Upstream/Configuration tabs don't have any useful data that look like error logs.  <snip>


We need to see all those figures from the Downstream and Upstream tabs.  They are indeed very useful 🙂

Just copy and paste the text into several posts and ignore any warnings that may come up, and just click the Post button again.

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OK here goes

Downstream

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

12030000007.335256 qam9
21390000008.933256 qam1
31470000009.133256 qam2
41550000009.534256 qam3
5163000000935256 qam4
6171000000935256 qam5
71790000008.535256 qam6
81870000008.534256 qam7
91950000007.935256 qam8
102110000007.135256 qam10
112190000006.634256 qam11
122270000006.534256 qam12
132350000005.934256 qam13
142430000005.534256 qam14
152510000004.533256 qam15
162590000004.533256 qam16
172670000004.634256 qam17
182750000005.134256 qam18
192830000004.834256 qam19
202910000004.634256 qam20
212990000004.533256 qam21
223070000004.934256 qam22
233150000004.835256 qam23
243230000004.434256 qam24



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked3516090
2Locked33.91038520
3Locked33.8890960
4Locked34.952600
5Locked3516230
6Locked3516430
7Locked3522960
8Locked34.3131360
9Locked3513000
10Locked3519860
11Locked34.922710
12Locked34.4186240
13Locked34.963650
14Locked34.4210920
15Locked33.9820440
16Locked33.43090100
17Locked34.3424380
18Locked34.488320
19Locked34.476810
20Locked34.4160640
21Locked33.9724650
22Locked34.952980
23Locked3517350
24Locked34.923050
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Upstream

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

14960000044.5512064 qam1
24309989344512064 qam2
32360000042.5512032 qam5
43660023943.5512064 qam3
53010000043512064 qam4



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000
5ATDMA0000
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