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Possible packet loss - Any ideas?

Sandcastle
Joining in

Recently been having a lot of packet loss, no idea how to see what's causing it, this is all over a wired ethernet connection. Anyone can check over this and see if everythings working how it should? - Not sure what other info is required so if anythings needed I can provide it. 

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5171000000740.9QAM2565
11390000007.239QAM2561
21470000007.739QAM2562
31550000007.838.6QAM2563
41630000007.440.4QAM2564
61790000006.740.4QAM2566
71870000006.740.4QAM2567
81950000006.639QAM2568
92030000006.438.6QAM2569
102110000006.638.6QAM25610
112190000006.439QAM25611
122270000006.239QAM25612
13235000000638.6QAM25613
142430000005.638.6QAM25614
152510000005.239QAM25615
162590000005.339QAM25616
17267000000538.6QAM25617
18275000000539QAM25618
192830000005.139QAM25619
202910000005.137.4QAM25620
212990000005.237.6QAM25621
223070000004.737.6QAM25622
233150000004.537.6QAM25623
243230000004.938.6QAM25624
253310000004.838.6QAM25625
263390000004.738.6QAM25626
273470000004.838.6QAM25627
283550000004.238.6QAM25628
293630000004.338.6QAM25629
303710000004.337.6QAM25630
313790000004.338.6QAM25631
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jbrennand
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What devices have you got connected to the Hub on ethernet cables? Is the Hub in normal router mode or is it in modem mode?

Post up the rest of the data thus...
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Navigate to these “data pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again). If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Lots of ethernet devices, two ethernet switches. TV's, computers, etc. Router is in normal router mode. 

3.0 Downstream channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
5 171000000 7.1 40.4 QAM256 5
1 139000000 7.2 39 QAM256 1
2 147000000 7.7 39 QAM256 2
3 155000000 7.8 39 QAM256 3
4 163000000 7.4 40.4 QAM256 4
6 179000000 6.8 40.4 QAM256 6
7 187000000 6.7 40.4 QAM256 7
8 195000000 6.5 39 QAM256 8
9 203000000 6.4 39 QAM256 9
10 211000000 6.6 39 QAM256 10
11 219000000 6.4 38.6 QAM256 11
12 227000000 6.2 39 QAM256 12
13 235000000 5.9 39 QAM256 13
14 243000000 5.6 39 QAM256 14
15 251000000 5.1 38.6 QAM256 15
16 259000000 5.3 39 QAM256 16
17 267000000 5 39 QAM256 17
18 275000000 5 38.6 QAM256 18
19 283000000 5.1 38.6 QAM256 19
20 291000000 5.1 37.6 QAM256 20
21 299000000 5.2 37.4 QAM256 21
22 307000000 4.7 37.6 QAM256 22
23 315000000 4.6 37.6 QAM256 23
24 323000000 5 38.6 QAM256 24
25 331000000 4.7 39 QAM256 25
26 339000000 4.8 38.6 QAM256 26
27 347000000 4.8 38.6 QAM256 27
28 355000000 4.3 38.6 QAM256 28
29 363000000 4.3 38.6 QAM256 29
30 371000000 4.2 37.6 QAM256 30
31 379000000 4.3 38.6 QAM256 31



3.0 Downstream channels
Channel Lock Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
5 Locked 40.366287 0 0
1 Locked 38.983261 0 0
2 Locked 38.983261 0 0
3 Locked 38.983261 0 0
4 Locked 40.366287 0 0
6 Locked 40.366287 0 0
7 Locked 40.366287 0 0
8 Locked 38.983261 0 0
9 Locked 38.983261 0 0
10 Locked 38.983261 0 0
11 Locked 38.605377 0 0
12 Locked 38.983261 0 0
13 Locked 38.983261 0 0
14 Locked 38.983261 0 0
15 Locked 38.605377 0 0
16 Locked 38.983261 0 0
17 Locked 38.983261 0 0
18 Locked 38.605377 0 0
19 Locked 38.605377 0 0
20 Locked 37.636276 0 0
21 Locked 37.355988 0 0
22 Locked 37.636276 0 0
23 Locked 37.636276 0 0
24 Locked 38.605377 0 0
25 Locked 38.983261 0 0
26 Locked 38.605377 0 0
27 Locked 38.605377 0 0
28 Locked 38.605377 0 0
29 Locked 38.605377 0 0
30 Locked 37.636276 0 0
31 Locked 38.605377 0 0



3.1 Downstream channels
Channel Channel Width (MHz) FFT Type Number of Active Subcarriers Modulation (Active Profile) First Active Subcarrier (Hz)
159 96 4K 1880 QAM4096 759


3.1 Downstream channels
Channel ID Lock Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Correcteds (Active Profile) Uncorrectables (Active Profile)
159 Locked 41 5.5 3524994234 363


3.0 Upstream channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 49600000 44 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 1
2 23600000 43.5 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 5
3 30100000 43.5 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 4
4 36600000 43.5 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 3
5 43100000 43.5 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 2



3.0 Upstream channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 0 0
2 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 1 0
3 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 0 0
4 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 0 0
5 US_TYPE_STDMA 0 0 0 0



3.1 Upstream channels
Channel Channel Width (MHz) Power (dBmV) FFT Type Modulation
6 10.0 38.0 2K QAM8


3.1 Upstream channels
Channel Channel Type Number of Active Subcarriers First Active Subcarrier (Hz) T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
6 OFDMA 200 53.9 0 0

jbrennand
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Right - all stats look good - see this...
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There is another option, there have been several threads on here recently where similar BQM latency/packet loss problems were eventually pinned down to a dodgy piece of connected kit affecting the connection . Bad connectors on ethernet cables and faulty network switches being high on the list of suspects

What I advised was... if you run the BQM for ~24h to get a picture of the issues (you have done this) - and then unplug all the ethernet cable connections from the Hub and just let it run - so overnight is best

Then in the morning, look at the BQM and see if it has cleaned up. If it has - plug the devices back in one at a time, leave for an hour or two until the packet drop reappears and that should indicate where to look for what is causing the issues

If you replace cables first - get Cat6a ones as they have better shielding to protect from crosstalk in the connectors and electrical interference.

Examples.
See message 21 in the first thread - and 13 in the second.

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Internet-connection-dropping/td-p/4781287/p...

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Intermittent-Connection/td-p/5069984/page/2

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.