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Internet intermittently drops out

Norrisweb
Joining in

For almost a week now I've had regular Internet dropouts of  5ish or so seconds where the Internet seems to drop out meaning that anything connection sensitive stops (MS Teams meetings, online gaming, etc.). These dropouts can be spaced anything from 20 to 2 minutes apart. I spent some time changing things on my setup, eventually even turning off modem mode on the VM router and just directly connecting to it and It's still the same.

Below is my BQM and the modem stats

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Downstream  DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8

Frequency (Hz)139000000147000000155000000163000000171000000179000000187000000195000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock)LockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Channel ID12345678
Modulation256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec)6.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.952000
Interleave DepthI=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV)-0.50-0.62-0.79-0.99-1.16-1.46-1.54-1.90
RxMER (dB)37.9437.9437.9437.9438.2636.8438.2637.94
Pre RS Errors1518412202984674336245095311264903318
Post RS Errors290291290286297243839111251076286

 

Upstream  US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4

Channel Type2.02.02.02.0
Channel ID4352
Frequency (Hz)30100000366000002360000043100000
Ranging StatusSuccessSuccessSuccessSuccess
Modulation64QAM64QAM64QAM64QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)5120000512000051200005120000
Mini-Slot Size2222
Power Level (dBmV)49.0049.0048.7549.50
T1 Timeouts0000
T2 Timeouts0000
T3 Timeouts1000
T4 Timeouts0000

 

Network Log

First TimeLast TimePriorityError NumberDescription
29/07/2022 09:42:27 GMT29/07/2022 09:42:27 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:34:57 GMT29/07/2022 09:34:57 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:25:15 GMT29/07/2022 09:25:15 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:24:07 GMT29/07/2022 09:24:07 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:21:05 GMT29/07/2022 09:21:05 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:18:55 GMT29/07/2022 09:18:55 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:15:48 GMT29/07/2022 09:15:48 GMTWarning (5)66050310Auth Success - Web login successful.
29/07/2022 09:15:43 GMT29/07/2022 09:15:43 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:13:29 GMT29/07/2022 09:13:29 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:09:58 GMT29/07/2022 09:09:58 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:07:04 GMT29/07/2022 09:07:04 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 09:05:24 GMT29/07/2022 09:05:24 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:59:06 GMT29/07/2022 08:59:06 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:56:50 GMT29/07/2022 08:56:50 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:42:52 GMT29/07/2022 08:42:52 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:41:40 GMT29/07/2022 08:41:40 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:39:54 GMT29/07/2022 08:39:54 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:38:16 GMT29/07/2022 08:38:16 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:31:08 GMT29/07/2022 08:31:08 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
29/07/2022 08:30:48 GMT29/07/2022 08:30:48 GMTWarning (5)84020200Lost MDD Timeout
6 REPLIES 6

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
I have an SH2 too - and whilst some RS errors are always present (its a feature!) your channels 6&7 are dreadful with that many PostRS counts.

Can you press the reset counter buttons to 0 them and see if they re-appear quickly - they shouldnt. If they do it suggests that noise in the 2 frequency ranges (and maybe others) is getting in from somewhere. One thing worth looking at is to try this...
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There is one other option, there have been several threads on here recently where similar BQM latency problems were eventually pinned down to a dodgy piece of connected kit. Bad connectors on ethernet cables and faulty network switches being high on the list of suspects

What I advised was... if you run the BQM for 24h to get a picture of the issues (you have done this) - and then unplug all the ethernet cable connections from the Hub and just let it run - overnight is best - then in the morning look at the BQM and see if it has cleaned up. If it has - plug the devices back in one at a time for an hour or two until the problem reappears and that should indicate where to look for what is causing the issues

Examples.
See message 12 in the first and 13 in the second.
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Internet-connection-dropping/td-p/4781287/p...
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Intermittent-Connection/td-p/5069984/page/2

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 1 WiFi, 1 on PA) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's. On 250Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

I reset the counts and after 20 minutes it looked like this;

Downstream  DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8

Frequency (Hz)139000000147000000155000000163000000171000000N/A187000000195000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock)LockedLockedLockedLockedLockedUnlockedLockedLocked
Channel ID12345N/A78
Modulation256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAMUnknown256QAM256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec)6.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.952000N/A6.9520006.952000
Interleave DepthI=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
N/AI=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV)-0.40-0.57-0.68-0.86-1.02N/A-1.44-1.80
RxMER (dB)37.9438.2637.9437.9438.26N/A38.2637.94
Pre RS Errors6857460N/A144020
Post RS Errors00000N/A143390

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

You have a problem on the connection. Channel 6 has disappeared now and 7 is borked by noise.

Can you do what I suggested re unplugging ethernet connections.

You will have to call in and report it as a fault - a VM person will take a look here soon.


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 1 WiFi, 1 on PA) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's. On 250Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Reece_MH
Forum Team
Forum Team

Hi @Norrisweb,

Thanks for your post. Sorry to hear you're facing issues with intermittent service. As kindly mentioned by @jbrennand, it does appear that there are a few issues that we need to get resolved with a Technician visit.

I've ran checks on our end, and can also see that there are some problems with the Power levels as well. So I can get a Technician booked in, I'm going to drop you a PM. Please look out for it in the top-right of the Forums, in the purple envelope.

Thanks,

Reece - Forum Team


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The engineer visited this morning and made some changes at the cabinet, the downstream power levels have improved, however the intermittent disconnects are still occurring, to be it with slightly less frequency.

 

Downstream  DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8

Frequency (Hz)139000000147000000155000000163000000171000000179000000187000000195000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock)LockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Channel ID12345678
Modulation256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec)6.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.952000
Interleave DepthI=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV)4.173.983.783.633.433.163.082.69
RxMER (dB)38.2638.2637.9438.2638.9836.8438.2638.26
Pre RS Errors6355593052943033494820473955
Post RS Errors2912822862823023303120311955

Hi Norrisweb, 

Thank you for reaching back out and updating the thread. 

I am happy to hear there has been some improvements. 

I have taken a look at the service from our side and everything does appear to be running in specification with no errors. 

How have things been since your last post to us? 

Thanks,

 

Nat