on 01-07-2021 22:44
I was rung by someone supposedly from Virgin tonight. In fairness the phone number appeared genuine.
She wanted to review my account as a loyal customer. So far so good. I thought I would be offered a deduction in my monthly bill but it would have been an increase - however the new terms would have seen me access Sky Sports HD and an increase in Broadband speed.
So decided to give it a try - but then I was asked various security questions (that I had already disclosed) and then asked to provide bank details. At that point I said I would not comply with that request and terminated the call.
My question - please tell me that Virgin staff should not be requesting such information. I was left with the impression that this was a (hacking) scam........
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on 02-07-2021 08:07
IMO you did the right thing in stopping the call. Past posts on the forum have mentioned being asked for a banking sort code as part of 'security' checks (a dubious kind of check IMO). You can tell nothing from the incoming caller ID as it is easily faked to look like an alternative number.
VM have created a situation where their telesales calls are strikingly similar to scam calls (overseas call centres, unverifiable caller ID, mobile numbers being used for calls, pushy sales techniques/staff etc.). There have been past topics on the forum when customers have received similar calls (and the caller knew lots of info about the customer and their VM account) only to find later on that the call was fake.
If you want to renegotiate your VM package, the most reliable way to do that from a security POV is to place a call to VM yourself. Unfortunately, the deals on offer change rapidly so you might not get the same deal phoning back as you did from any earlier conversation with a genuine VM sales person who had phoned you.
on 02-07-2021 08:07
IMO you did the right thing in stopping the call. Past posts on the forum have mentioned being asked for a banking sort code as part of 'security' checks (a dubious kind of check IMO). You can tell nothing from the incoming caller ID as it is easily faked to look like an alternative number.
VM have created a situation where their telesales calls are strikingly similar to scam calls (overseas call centres, unverifiable caller ID, mobile numbers being used for calls, pushy sales techniques/staff etc.). There have been past topics on the forum when customers have received similar calls (and the caller knew lots of info about the customer and their VM account) only to find later on that the call was fake.
If you want to renegotiate your VM package, the most reliable way to do that from a security POV is to place a call to VM yourself. Unfortunately, the deals on offer change rapidly so you might not get the same deal phoning back as you did from any earlier conversation with a genuine VM sales person who had phoned you.
on 03-07-2021 10:31
Hi SteveGroves,
Thank you for reaching out to us in our community and welcome, we are sorry that a call you received seemed to be a scam call which you ended.
We appreciate that you were in the belief this was a scam call which you rightly ended the call, if this happens we do advise calling us directly.
I have been able to find your account and it does look like we did call you and that the call dropped, please call us so we can look further into this and arrange your upgrade if this is something you still wish to do.
Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Regards
Paul.
on 03-07-2021 20:58
Thank you Paul for your reply.
Are Virgin call centre staff trained to ask for bank details? They must get a lot of hostility if they do given all the publicity around scams...
Regards
Steve
on 03-07-2021 23:03
I do not know for conformation of bank details why VM do not ask for say the 3rd, 4th and 6th digits of the account number and say the 2nd and 3rd digits of the sort code. This would not even show what bank was being used and it would be impossible to work out the mod10 or mod11 account number.
on 04-07-2021 10:57
Thanks for getting back to us @SteveGroves.
To confirm, was the agent running through DPA with you when you were asked for certain bank details? If you are unable to provide 3 characters of the password for your account, we'll usually run through some data protection questions with you in order to gain access. These will include things such as your current package, your last bill date, email address, the account sort code etc.
If this was the case, this is a legitimate call from one of our agents. We only allow access to the account if the customer is able to provide correct answers for all data protection questions.
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
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on 04-07-2021 12:53
on 04-07-2021 17:29
Thanks Micky
And yes I have a direct debit....but was still asked...
Steve
on 05-07-2021 09:16
Thank you for coming back to us.
As confirmed previously, we can confirm that there are occasions that we will ask for your sort code, this is part of a confirmation prosses.
Kind regards,
Zak_M
on 09-07-2021 14:57
But you already have the sort code.
And do you mean "process"?