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Increasing Disconnections

Hell Guys.

Since new year my service has been dropping out every so often which is now a regular occurrence each day now. I had trouble with noise on the line before but that was many years ago, the connection has been very, very reliable until now.

I assumed this was down to my Draytek router at first which I replaced with a pfSense box and then another PfSense box. Nothing has made any difference, I guessing there's an issue with the super hub or noise on the line again.

I've been through all the basic help stuff and online checks, Could someone from Virgin have a look into this for me please?

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

15370000043.5512064 qam2
24620000043.8512064 qam3
33940000044512064 qam4
46030000043.5512064 qam1



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0010
4ATDMA0000

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

12910000007.640256 qam20
22030000007.340256 qam9
32110000007.540256 qam10
42190000007.540256 qam11
52270000007.440256 qam12
62350000007.540256 qam13
72430000007.440256 qam14
82510000007.540256 qam15
92590000007.840256 qam16
102670000007.940256 qam17
112750000007.640256 qam18
122830000007.640256 qam19
132990000007.840256 qam21
143070000007.940256 qam22
15315000000840256 qam23
163230000007.940256 qam24
17331000000838256 qam25
183710000007.440256 qam26
193790000007.540256 qam27
203870000007.540256 qam28
213950000007.840256 qam29
224030000007.540256 qam30
234110000007.640256 qam31
244190000007.640256 qam32



Downstream bonded channels

Network Log

Time Priority Description

03/03/2022 23:26:33noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 16:00:58criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 08:07:40Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 08:07:38Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 08:07:34criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 08:07:34Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/03/2022 08:07:34criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/03/2022 22:51:38Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/02/2022 18:49:17criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/02/2022 14:41:36Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/02/2022 06:46:29criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/02/2022 22:58:22noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
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Re: Increasing Disconnections

Stats all look fine, but the MDD and SYNC errors are not good.

Setup a BQM to monitor the state of the circuit and post the shared link after 24 hours.   www.thinkbroadband.com/ping

Once done we can comment.

By the way, I also use a Draytek router and it's performing without issue.   😉

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Hi joelang6126,

Thank you for reaching out to us in our community and welcome back, sorry to hear you are getting connection drops which are increasing, I have been able to locate you on our system with the details we have for you and after further checks can see there is a short term connection issue, this is being monitored our end and should be resolved shortly.

Please can you check all your internal connections are hand tight, this includes any splitters and equipment.

Regards

Paul.

 

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Hello Paul

Thanks for getting back to me. I confirmed all the connections are secure, still getting dropouts today.

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I started a BQM on friday, link below....

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/0c02a726e16aba7001d1ec7af9965bac1dc3916b

I don't think it's working properly though lol 

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Hi joelang6162, thank you for keeping us updated. 

Having checked our systems sadly I have been unable to see the disconnections you have been having as your hub is in modem mode. However, I have been able to identify an issue with one of the channel power levels that bring signal into your home from the exchange. This will require a technician to fix. I will send you a PM to confirm a few details and get this booked in for you in the first available slot. You can find the PM in the top right corner of the page in your Inbox. 
All the best. 

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Hi All, thank you to joelang6126 for PMing with me. 

An appointment has now been booked in the first available slot to get this resolved. You should be able to view the appointment within 24 hours here. 

If you can return to this thread following the appointment with an update on your service, we can offer any further support if needed. Hope the appointment goes well! 

All the best. 

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Good Morning Molly

An update on the issue. Engineer arrived in good time on the day appointed. The drop line connection was suffering from heavy corrosion coupled with an issue in the street cabinet. The engineer had it all repaired within 30 mins, with downstream/upstream locked to all channels.

However....

It seems I've been suffering a few issues combined. Originally, I had the issue down to my Draytek router I was using in combination with the SH3 in modem mode. Due to this I replaced this with a pfSense based box and also a pfSense virtual machine. After some research I've discovered there's an incompatibility between the SH3 and pfSense where the SH3 drops the connection between them. See below for a link to this issue.

https://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,24600.240.html

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Forum-Archive/Superhub3-issues-for-many-if-pfSense-firewalls-us...

This drop occurs every 15 mins and seems be down to a firmware update made to the SH3 some time ago. Apparently these devices have issues with UDP traffic. Would it be possible for you guys to send me a replacement SH3 or possibly SH4 to see if this fixes the broken firmware issue?

In the meantime I’m currently using OPNsense firewall in a Virtual Machine which doesn’t disconnect as much as pfSense but it’s still not a 100% stable connection though.

Regards
Joe

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Or preferably a SH2AC which is known not to suffer from UDP issues.

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@joelang6126 wrote:

Or preferably a SH2AC which is known not to suffer from UDP issues.


You'll find the SH2AC is now defunct.

Virgin won't replace the SH3 without a good reason either. Unless you go for the Gig1 package you'll get a SH3 then. 😒

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