on 24-07-2021 21:16
Hi,
I have an engineer attending on Monday to hopefully sort my overheating omnibox issues (I have another post about this). In the other thread it was mentioned by one of the VM team that my levels weren't right.
I remember when the installation engineer attended that he mentioned my levels and said that if I ever made contact they would be flagged as out of spec, but they are in fact fine due to it being fibre to the premises. Since then apart from my overheating RFoG node issues, I have never had any issues with my connection or speed that I have noticed.
As the engineer is attending anyway, I was wondering if anyone can check my BQM and router stats to confirm if there is anything out of the ordinary I should get them to check whilst they are here. Though as I haven't really had any issues other than the heat related outages, there hopefully isn't anything of major concern. I have spotted there are a load of Post RS errors, which I am pretty sure weren't showing before, so suspect they may be related to the overheating outages through this week (I hope anyway) as I haven't experienced any other issues.
Much appreciated
My BQM - Virgin Media M350 FTTP
Cable Modem StatusItem Status Comments
Acquired Downstream Channel (Hz) | 659000000 | Locked |
Ranged Upstream Channel (Hz) | 53699983 | Locked |
Provisioning State | Online |
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Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 | 659000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 32 |
2 | 475000000 | 5.9 | 38 | 256 qam | 9 |
3 | 483000000 | 6 | 38 | 256 qam | 10 |
4 | 491000000 | 6 | 38 | 256 qam | 11 |
5 | 499000000 | 6 | 38 | 256 qam | 12 |
6 | 507000000 | 6 | 38 | 256 qam | 13 |
7 | 515000000 | 6.1 | 38 | 256 qam | 14 |
8 | 523000000 | 6.1 | 38 | 256 qam | 15 |
9 | 531000000 | 6 | 38 | 256 qam | 16 |
10 | 539000000 | 6.1 | 38 | 256 qam | 17 |
11 | 547000000 | 6.1 | 38 | 256 qam | 18 |
12 | 555000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 19 |
13 | 563000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 20 |
14 | 571000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 21 |
15 | 579000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 22 |
16 | 587000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 23 |
17 | 595000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 24 |
18 | 603000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 25 |
19 | 611000000 | 6.3 | 38 | 256 qam | 26 |
20 | 619000000 | 6.1 | 38 | 256 qam | 27 |
21 | 627000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 28 |
22 | 635000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 29 |
23 | 643000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 30 |
24 | 651000000 | 6.5 | 38 | 256 qam | 31 |
Downstream bonded channels
Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1 | Locked | 38.9 | 6820 | 6885 |
2 | Locked | 38.9 | 3087 | 4899 |
3 | Locked | 38.6 | 6223 | 9750 |
4 | Locked | 38.9 | 5235 | 8082 |
5 | Locked | 38.9 | 5581 | 6823 |
6 | Locked | 38.6 | 3383 | 4816 |
7 | Locked | 38.9 | 3162 | 6127 |
8 | Locked | 38.9 | 4199 | 4555 |
9 | Locked | 38.9 | 5657 | 7119 |
10 | Locked | 38.9 | 2966 | 5688 |
11 | Locked | 38.9 | 2627 | 6636 |
12 | Locked | 38.6 | 5179 | 7246 |
13 | Locked | 38.9 | 5112 | 8660 |
14 | Locked | 38.9 | 5715 | 7221 |
15 | Locked | 38.9 | 3130 | 6125 |
16 | Locked | 38.9 | 5825 | 7330 |
17 | Locked | 38.6 | 3303 | 8276 |
18 | Locked | 38.9 | 5084 | 13037 |
19 | Locked | 38.9 | 5866 | 8286 |
20 | Locked | 38.9 | 3420 | 6426 |
21 | Locked | 38.6 | 6513 | 7494 |
22 | Locked | 38.6 | 4723 | 9045 |
23 | Locked | 38.9 | 3284 | 6745 |
24 | Locked | 38.9 | 2447 | 7736 |
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Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 | 53699983 | 32 | 5120 | 64 qam | 10 |
2 | 39400000 | 30.5 | 5120 | 64 qam | 12 |
3 | 46200014 | 31.5 | 5120 | 64 qam | 11 |
4 | 60300024 | 32.5 | 5120 | 64 qam | 9 |
Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
2 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
3 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
4 | ATDMA | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
Network Log
Time Priority Description
24/07/2021 08:52:59 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
23/07/2021 11:02:25 | Warning! | RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
23/07/2021 11:02:10 | Warning! | Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
23/07/2021 11:02:4 | critical | SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
23/07/2021 11:02:3 | Warning! | RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
23/07/2021 11:02:3 | critical | SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 18:33:19 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
01/01/1970 00:00:19 | Warning! | ToD request sent - No Response received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
01/01/1970 00:00:13 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
01/01/1970 00:00:13 | critical | Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:52:48 | Warning! | ToD request sent - No Response received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:51:32 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:51:31 | critical | Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:50:50 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:50:50 | critical | Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:50:14 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:50:14 | critical | Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:49:37 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:49:37 | critical | Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
22/07/2021 14:49:1 | critical | No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0; |
on 24-07-2021 21:30
Hi, yes your levels are fine, you should have a 4 way power passing splitter in the omni with the ONU and a 2 way splitter in side. Forward levels slightly higher than expected as at the ONU you should have +12 then 4 way splitter looses 7db and 2 way splitter looses 4db so around 1db at CPE - but still within -6/+10 so all good. Upstream levels should be 27-45 in fibre areas so again are within range. At ONU these are around 25 minus 7db for 4 way splitter and 4db for 2 way splitter gives you 36db at CPE (Upstream is the opposite to downstream when calculating)
on 24-07-2021 21:49
Hopefully the field tech can resolve the causes of the diabolical network log stuffed with timeouts and channel loss reports, and a downstream that looks to have far too many uncorrectable errors.
on 24-07-2021 21:56
The errors are probably being caused by the ONU over heating. But checking other customers off the same cab would determine whether there is an area issue or localised to one customer
on 24-07-2021 22:54
Excellent, thanks for checking.
Before the weather warmed up and it started dying through the overheating, I remember seeing some Pre RS errors, but not to many Post RS ones (if any) so assume it's related.
The network log always had the off ranging response and T3 timeout in it from what I remember too, but never noticed any issue in general use
on 24-07-2021 22:56
The overheating occurs when the sun is directly on the omnibox from around 12-4pm so that kinda ties up with some or the timeouts and such I guess (if the time of the log is GMT and not BST so an hour out)
on 25-07-2021 08:44
Pre-RS errors don't affect connection speed or quality, they're more an information item. The odd T3 error is normal on cable, perhaps one every two or three days, more than that and it can be a problem.
Tape some kitchen foil over the Omnibox, see if that resolves the problem. I don't suggest that as a permanent fix, but it's cheap, very quick & easy and will confirm (if we see more sun) whether that's the actual problem. If that works, then a more permanent fix is to try painting the Omnibox white, Dulux Weathershield Exterior Gloss oil based is the stuff to use, doesn't need an undercoat despite what the tin says, just lightly sand the surface, wipe off dust, and put two coats on, ideally with the cover off or open to avoid paint "gluing" the box shut. If you can completely remove the Omnibox cover, or mask around it in-situ very thoroughly then a can of Plastikote white (or even silver) spray paint would be another option - a touch less durable, but no oil-based brushes to clean. Or, if you're in the slightest DIY inclined, and the Omnibox doesn't front onto a public pavement you could knock up a little "bird box" style cover that keeps the Omnibox in the shade but still ventilated.
You can hope that VM will come up with a solution - sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I've seen company responses that say "not our problem, weather's an exceptional circumstance", and others "let us get somebody out to sort this for you". @Richw1982 will know what's possible, although bear in mind VM probably won't be to keen to set a precedent for moving or shielding all south facing Omniboxes, since there must be around half a million like that.
on 25-07-2021 23:23
Thanks for the tips on the paint. I was looking at solar reflective stuff for roofing and glass, but can't find it in small amounts, so it's pretty expensive.
An engineer is due back tomorrow so will see what they say. If it wasn't for the fact it's beside my driveway so all tarmac in front it it, and right by the gate (that is used everyday), I would just of planted some shrubs or something in front of it. But where it is, I can't even put a big plant pot as it will cause an obstruction.