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Stats check please.

Lemaru
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Hi,

I have an engineer attending on Monday to hopefully sort my overheating omnibox issues (I have another post about this). In the other thread it was mentioned by one of the VM team that my levels weren't right. 

I remember when the installation engineer attended that he mentioned my levels and said that if I ever made contact they would be flagged as out of spec, but they are in fact fine due to it being fibre to the premises. Since then apart from my overheating RFoG node issues, I have never had any issues with my connection or speed that I have noticed. 

As the engineer is attending anyway, I was wondering if anyone can check my BQM and router stats to confirm if there is anything out of the ordinary I should get them to check whilst they are here. Though as I haven't really had any issues other than the heat related outages, there hopefully isn't anything of major concern. I have spotted there are a load of Post RS errors, which I am pretty sure weren't showing before, so suspect they may be related to the overheating outages through this week (I hope anyway) as I haven't experienced any other issues. 

Much appreciated

My BQM - Virgin Media M350 FTTP 

Cable Modem StatusItem Status Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel (Hz)
659000000
Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel (Hz)
53699983
Locked
Provisioning State
Online



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Lemaru
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Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

16590000006.538256 qam32
24750000005.938256 qam9
3483000000638256 qam10
4491000000638256 qam11
5499000000638256 qam12
6507000000638256 qam13
75150000006.138256 qam14
85230000006.138256 qam15
9531000000638256 qam16
105390000006.138256 qam17
115470000006.138256 qam18
125550000006.538256 qam19
135630000006.538256 qam20
145710000006.538256 qam21
155790000006.538256 qam22
165870000006.538256 qam23
175950000006.538256 qam24
186030000006.538256 qam25
196110000006.338256 qam26
206190000006.138256 qam27
216270000006.538256 qam28
226350000006.538256 qam29
236430000006.538256 qam30
246510000006.538256 qam31



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.968206885
2Locked38.930874899
3Locked38.662239750
4Locked38.952358082
5Locked38.955816823
6Locked38.633834816
7Locked38.931626127
8Locked38.941994555
9Locked38.956577119
10Locked38.929665688
11Locked38.926276636
12Locked38.651797246
13Locked38.951128660
14Locked38.957157221
15Locked38.931306125
16Locked38.958257330
17Locked38.633038276
18Locked38.9508413037
19Locked38.958668286
20Locked38.934206426
21Locked38.665137494
22Locked38.647239045
23Locked38.932846745
24Locked38.924477736



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

15369998332512064 qam10
23940000030.5512064 qam12
34620001431.5512064 qam11
46030002432.5512064 qam9



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0010
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0020
4ATDMA0010

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description

24/07/2021 08:52:59criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/07/2021 11:02:25Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/07/2021 11:02:10Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/07/2021 11:02:4criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/07/2021 11:02:3Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/07/2021 11:02:3criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 18:33:19criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:00:19Warning!ToD request sent - No Response received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:00:13criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:00:13criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:52:48Warning!ToD request sent - No Response received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:51:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:51:31criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:50:50criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:50:50criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:50:14criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:50:14criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:49:37criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:49:37criticalUnicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/07/2021 14:49:1criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

Hi, yes your levels are fine, you should have a 4 way power passing splitter in the omni with the ONU and a 2 way splitter in side.  Forward levels slightly higher than expected as at the ONU you should have +12 then 4 way splitter looses 7db and 2 way splitter looses 4db so around 1db at CPE - but still within -6/+10 so all good.  Upstream levels should be 27-45 in fibre areas so again are within range.  At ONU these are around 25 minus 7db for 4 way splitter and 4db for 2 way splitter gives you 36db at CPE (Upstream is the opposite to downstream when calculating)

I work for VMO2 but all opinions are my own and are based on my own experiences

Hopefully the field tech can resolve the causes of the diabolical network log stuffed with timeouts and channel loss reports, and a downstream that looks to have far too many uncorrectable errors.

The errors are probably being caused by the ONU over heating.  But checking other customers off the same cab would determine whether there is an area issue or localised to one customer 

I work for VMO2 but all opinions are my own and are based on my own experiences

Excellent, thanks for checking. 

Before the weather warmed up and it started dying through the overheating, I remember seeing some Pre RS errors, but not to many Post RS ones (if any) so assume it's related. 

The network log always had the off ranging response and T3 timeout in it from what I remember too, but never noticed any issue in general use

The overheating occurs when the sun is directly on the omnibox from around 12-4pm so that kinda ties up with some or the timeouts and such I guess (if the time of the log is GMT and not BST so an hour out)

Andrew-G
Alessandro Volta

Pre-RS errors don't affect connection speed or quality, they're more an information item.  The odd T3 error is normal on cable, perhaps one every two or three days, more than that and it can be a problem.

Tape some kitchen foil over the Omnibox, see if that resolves the problem. I don't suggest that as a permanent fix, but it's cheap, very quick & easy and will confirm (if we see more sun) whether that's the actual problem.  If that works, then a more permanent fix is to try painting the Omnibox white, Dulux Weathershield Exterior Gloss oil based is the stuff to use, doesn't need an undercoat despite what the tin says, just lightly sand the surface, wipe off dust, and put two coats on, ideally with the cover off or open to avoid paint "gluing" the box shut. If you can completely remove the Omnibox cover, or mask around it in-situ very thoroughly  then a can of Plastikote white (or even silver) spray paint would be another option - a touch less durable, but no oil-based brushes to clean.  Or, if you're in the slightest DIY inclined, and the Omnibox doesn't front onto a public pavement you could knock up a little "bird box" style cover that keeps the Omnibox in the shade but still ventilated.  

You can hope that VM will come up with a solution - sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.  I've seen company responses that say "not our problem, weather's an exceptional circumstance", and others "let us get somebody out to sort this for you".  @Richw1982 will know what's possible, although bear in mind VM probably won't be to keen to set a precedent for moving or shielding all south facing Omniboxes, since there must be around half a million like that.

Thanks for the tips on the paint. I was looking at solar reflective stuff for roofing and glass, but can't find it in small amounts, so it's pretty expensive. 

An engineer is due back tomorrow so will see what they say. If it wasn't for the fact it's beside my driveway so all tarmac in front it it, and right by the gate (that is used everyday), I would just of planted some shrubs or something in front of it. But where it is, I can't even put a big plant pot as it will cause an obstruction.