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Hub3 - Your Home network has a few problems!?!

YabbaDabbaDo
On our wavelength

Despite rebooting several times this error is always returned when conducting the diagnostics. Despite ethernet connection to router continually receive weak signal strength when on Teams/Skype or Zoom. Can't get through to VM CS so can someone please throw some light on what to do to resolve - even if that means buying other Router/MESH equipment.

Logs from Router below:

 

Cable Modem StatusItem Status Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel (Hz)
331000000
Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel (Hz)
46200000
Locked
Provisioning State
Online
 
Downstream bonded channelsChannel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
13310000006.638256 qam25
22030000005.138256 qam9
3211000000538256 qam10
4219000000538256 qam11
52270000004.938256 qam12
6235000000538256 qam13
7243000000538256 qam14
8251000000538256 qam15
9259000000538256 qam16
102670000005.138256 qam17
112750000005.338256 qam18
122830000005.538256 qam19
132910000005.838256 qam20
142990000006.138256 qam21
153070000006.138256 qam22
163150000006.538256 qam23
173230000006.338256 qam24
183710000006.840256 qam26
193790000006.938256 qam27
203870000006.440256 qam28
213950000006.540256 qam29
224030000006.540256 qam30
234110000006.838256 qam31
244190000006.838256 qam32


Downstream bonded channelsChannel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked38.92490
2Locked38.91470
3Locked38.61420
4Locked38.91390
5Locked38.61700
6Locked38.61590
7Locked38.61910
8Locked38.62190
9Locked38.61860
10Locked38.92070
11Locked38.61900
12Locked38.92320
13Locked38.62450
14Locked38.62790
15Locked38.62970
16Locked38.62870
17Locked38.93460
18Locked40.32880
19Locked38.93840
20Locked40.33900
21Locked40.348913
22Locked40.34760
23Locked38.94950
24Locked38.6552

0

Upstream bonded channelsChannel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
14620000042512064 qam1
22580000039.5512064 qam4
33260000040512064 qam3
43940000040.5512064 qam2

 

Upstream bonded channelsChannel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1ATDMA00190
2ATDMA00310
3ATDMA0050
4ATDMA0020

 

 

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Hi YabbaDabbaDo,

 

Welcome to the Community Forums, thank you for taking the time to post here.

 

I'm sorry to see you've been having a lot of problems with your broadband service and haven't been able to get many answers as to what's causing the issues. 

 

As jbrennand has correctly pointed out, this is a case of network congestion. I've had a look at your account and can see that our network teams are aware of this and the issue is estimated to be resolved by 11th February.

 

We're sorry for the inconvenience caused in the meantime and we appreciate your patience whilst we work on a fix.

 

Please don't hesitate to get back in touch if you have any other questions or need anything else.

 

Beth

Beth

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Dealing with those in turn:

a) any certainty that the delay date were ever to materialise (albeit some 3 months away)

No certainty.  VM spend tens of millions of pounds each year increasing capacity, but you wouldn't know that from this forum, and that's largely because VM's modus operandi is to over promise and under deliver.  Behind the scenes, the "fix date" for an over-utilisation fault isn't that, it is a "review date", meaning that in some/many instances the company has a date to offer customers, but no work is done, and they hope that the problem goes away.  And by problem, I suspect they mean unhappy customers.  In the majority of over-utilisation instances reported here, there are multiple missed dates, and as each new one becomes due, the date gets pushed back (one of many examples).  Forum staff can't see behind the scenes to view any prior history of made up dates, nor can they see if there's any real plan to fix things, and they are unfortunately pig-in-the-middle between frustrated customers and the forces of corporate idiocy who have this policy of made up dates.

b) any confidence that when/if it does get stated as completed this would be noticeable from my end

If VM actually chose to invest the considerable resources needed to address an over-utilisation problem, yes, you would see a night and day difference.  The company know full well what causes over-utilisation, and they know full well how to resolve it, and sometimes they even do that.  Trouble is that there's a longer list of capacity issues than there is either budget or skills to fix (and in some areas, as soon as its fixed, they simply sell more contracts and repeat the problem).  No matter how firmly VM assurance you of an imminent fix, the evidence is that those promises cannot be relied on as per link above.

c) the option to buy additional equipment (not sure what?) and switching the Hub3 into modem mode may resolve the issue without a) or b); or

No point, a better router or mesh system solves wireless problems, won't make a blind bit of difference to a capacity constraint on the local coax network, I'm afraid.

d) change ISP provider as you suggest - any recommendation?

I hold Zen Internet in high regard, but AAISP, Aquiss, CIX, IDNet and uno all have excellent customer ratings.  Avoid the big ISPs, they all use Openreach, but there's a huge gulf between different companies ability to get the best from Openreach.  Light reading on the topic.  If you're still in a fixed term contract you may have to have some firm discussions with VM to force them to release you without penalty.  Happy to advise on that if needed.

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YabbaDabbaDo
On our wavelength

and think broadband BQM Graph

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and today !?!?

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Would be good if a "Moderator' could answer this please as would appear to be the case for more recent posts ...

Every time!?!?

 

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What is the point of a diagnostic tool that tells you a problem exists but no option to report it or find help towards solving what that is. Equally what is the point of a forum that also appears to offer no assistance. VM you're knocking it out of the park of late - loads of threads are saying the same!?!?

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
The BQM looks like a classic over-utilisation issue to me. This is sensitive territory for VM so you will need to get some official input on whether that is correct or not.

First port of call is to see what they say when you call it in as a fault.

Call it in on 150 (VM Phone) or 0345 454 1111 (any other phone) and see what they say when they test the connection. Ask them if they know whether there is a known utilisation issue being worked on - if they say yes - get the reference number and estimated resolution date. If they say no issues they can see - come back here.

Calling at 08.00 (Mon-Sat) or 09.00 (Sun) is the best time to get through quickly.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
I will ask a VM person to come here to contact you

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi YabbaDabbaDo,

 

Welcome to the Community Forums, thank you for taking the time to post here.

 

I'm sorry to see you've been having a lot of problems with your broadband service and haven't been able to get many answers as to what's causing the issues. 

 

As jbrennand has correctly pointed out, this is a case of network congestion. I've had a look at your account and can see that our network teams are aware of this and the issue is estimated to be resolved by 11th February.

 

We're sorry for the inconvenience caused in the meantime and we appreciate your patience whilst we work on a fix.

 

Please don't hesitate to get back in touch if you have any other questions or need anything else.

 

Beth

Beth

John (jbrennand) many thanks for your assistance, very much appreciated.

Beth (Beth_G) thanks for the confirmation that an issue does exist with congestion and that VM engineers were aware!

What I do not understand is that when checking service status from here it says all is good and if using the diagnostics or the seemingly useless app also, it says it isn't. And yet there was an issue which the supplier (VM) knew of but was not advising the customer. I'm not shooting the messenger but sure an improvement could be made to bridge such issues.

Beth_G - how will I know if/when the issue is fixed. Jut keep checking post 11-Feb or will there be any notification of when it is actually addressed please?

Thanks both, much appreciated.

 

Is it purely coincidental that just after confirming the congestion issue the ability to Ping and trace the congestion through thinkbroadband appears to have been stopped/blocked on my Hub3/router!

 

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Hi Yabbadabbado, thanks for the message. We have checked the area and have found that there is a fault for congestion. The fault reference number for this is F008756539  and is estimated to be fixed on the 11th February 2021 - Chris