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Broadband drops of every night at 00:05

bowers6
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Well I have weeks of my broadband dropping off just after midnight.

Then takes 45 min to come back on and reconnect everything so i can switch the light off and go to bed.

Many calls to VM Rubbish response.

Raised a complaint that was a waste of time.

The online checker says all ok. you call in then next day and the say there is a fault but should be clear in 24 hours.... 2 weeks later it still happens and now they wan to book an engineer to visit.

I am so fed up with the lack of information as to what is the fault and when will it be fixed.

Customer service is 0.

they dont care to answer your questions no offer of good will, no response to threats of closing all my virgin media accounts.

rubbish hub 5 with flake wifi signal.. help.....

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jbrennand
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The Hub5 wifi is a separate issue.

First thing is to get the evidence to present to VM. Those disconnections will all clearly show on a BQM. Do this...
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If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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jbrennand
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The Hub5 wifi is a separate issue.

First thing is to get the evidence to present to VM. Those disconnections will all clearly show on a BQM. Do this...
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If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

HI Thanks for the reply. I will be setting up the BQM when I get home tonight.

I will post the live link once it has started collecting data.

Thanks..

Steve

jbrennand
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Mixed messages from CS.

If there is a known fault in the location - all Tech visits are cancelled. If they now want to book a Tech visit - there is no general fault - so must be specific to you.

Is the early disconnects the only issue you have? They often do work on the network at that time and move customer connections around - causing disconnects- but typically only for a few days in a row - not weeks!

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

HI Yes the early drop out have been happening every night for 2 weeks at least now.

Whilst i understand they may be doing maintenance work I have never experienced this kind of drop out before.

As I am still up at that time the drop out means I can't turn my light off etc before bed and have to wait for the very slow reboot to complete.

Regards if its a known issue depends who you ask.

If you check online or over the phone even when the drop happens there are no known issues.

If you speak to CS @ virgin this is a fault and it will be fixed in a few hours.

When the tech comes on Tuedsday morning the service will be running as normal.

Apart from the logs on the router showing the reboots request sent via (cant remember the last bit).

There is a fault logged in my area for TV service regarding streaming BBC iplayer ,Netfix etc..

Regards Steve

 

jbrennand
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Ok. CS are just saying that to get you off the phone and move on.

When the Tech visits - show them the BQM's for the period of the drops. In the meantime lets see the complete Hub stats - can you do this
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In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up login and Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page.

Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

HI

yes I guess that was what they were doing..

Here is log data.

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description
28-09-2022 09:59:27noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 09:59:27warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:58:37warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:52:57noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 12 13; New Profile: 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:52:57warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:48:38warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:47:00warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:47:00warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 08:42:38warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:41:18warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:41:18warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 08:38:46warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:35:46warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 08:35:46noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 11 13; New Profile: 12 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 06:39:10warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:24:06warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:24:06noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:24:02noticeREGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningDynamic Range Window violation
28-09-2022 00:23:57warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:56warningREG-RSP-MP Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:51noticeDS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:48warningDHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
28-09-2022 00:23:46noticeHonoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv4

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
13390000008.139QAM 25626
21390000009.240QAM 2561
31470000009.340QAM 2562
41550000009.240QAM 2563
51630000009.340QAM 2564
6171000000940QAM 2565
71790000009.140QAM 2566
81870000009.240QAM 2567
91950000009.540QAM 2568
102030000009.440QAM 2569
112110000009.540QAM 25610
122190000009.440QAM 25611
132270000009.240QAM 25612
142350000009.240QAM 25613
152430000008.940QAM 25614
162510000008.840QAM 25615
172590000008.840QAM 25616
182670000008.540QAM 25617
192750000008.140QAM 25618
202830000007.939QAM 25619
212910000007.639QAM 25620
222990000007.739QAM 25621
233070000007.639QAM 25622
243150000007.739QAM 25623
25323000000839QAM 25624
26331000000839QAM 25625
273470000008.239QAM 25627
283550000008.439QAM 25628
293630000008.539QAM 25629
303710000008.540QAM 25630
313790000008.440QAM 25631

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked391113184
2Locked401514444351
3Locked401468594552
4Locked401117692591
5Locked401455776160
6Locked40474598107939
7Locked4056810873306
8Locked4012666333037
9Locked407696499
10Locked405738506
11Locked405998474
12Locked405235434
13Locked409140492
14Locked4010927343
15Locked4010767379
16Locked409520367
17Locked409520312
18Locked408123308
19Locked407440345
20Locked3911827324
21Locked3922872585
22Locked3920178670
23Locked397895270
24Locked392316265
25Locked391870231
26Locked391427264
27Locked391330228
28Locked39856207
29Locked39738189
30Locked40625224
31Locked40607218

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
04960000045.85120QAM 641
14310000045.35120QAM 642
23660000044.85120QAM 643
33010000044.55120QAM 644
42360000043.85120QAM 645

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
0ATDMA0000
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

jbrennand
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Strange set of logs - someone else needs to comment

But the down powers are all high - albeit just in range. But the post-RS errors might be an issue - can you do this...
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and any T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

HI John,

Thank you for your detailed reply

I have just followed your instructions and can confirm right now zero errors on post rs and T3/

I check all internal cable connections

I have started a BQM monitor also.

I'll keep an eye on the errors in the log and check BQM in the morning.

Your information gives me hope that the technician visit on tuesday will be able to resolve my issue and i now have some tools to check the performance of my router.

Thanks Steve