Persistent spam from in.camarel.eu

[ianblenkinsop]

Getting multiple mails from this domain. Come back after deletion, more than once. Blocking the domain name in Outlook has had no effect.

Anything you can do from your end to get these spammers blacklisted?

[ALF28 · Accepted solution]

Try to filter out using text keywords in the email body-

 (Where the message body contains specific words)

example keywords (company/tradename) to use are -

BAYBSBABYS

Travelwop

CASTELLANA

ENJOYFAMILY

Frikigadgets

I was also getting loads of these spam emails from IP addresses in spain which are probably affiliates selling other UK companies products.

I used the filters in the VM webmail settings and filter condition body - keywords and then set action discard.

As each email can be different, a rang of keywords  is needed, so check each email for a relevant repeating keyword.

This blocked them and have had none recently.

The sender address/domain keeps changing, so that is why filtering with the email body text keywords  does  works better, as the keywords are at the bottom of each email which identifies the company or tradename used.

[ianblenkinsop]

Will that work in Outlook too?

[ianblenkinsop]

I've tried setting a rule in Outlook to permanently delete any arriving mails with the sender's domain name in the sender field. Let's see of that works. This lot seem pernicious, as the mails kept coming back after deletion.

[ALF28]

I am not sure if it works in outlook , as I do not use outlook.

I do use outlook webmail which does enable body filters in settings rules, so I hope the email client outlook would also do the same.

I only use webmail so am not familiar with email clients.

You would need to check if there are filters for body in the outlook desktop client, or log into VM account/email and set up filters in the VM email settings.

I was getting so many of these I had to block them, all have .eu on the sender address but the domain keeps changing , VM are tagging them as spam so they can be set to go to either inbox or the spam folder in the VM spam settings.

Note-added-

If using a third party email client such as outlook or an app, conflicts can occur with spam detection and filters, so to avoid unexpected results do not have duplicate settings in webmail, or they can override any settings in the email client, so check your email account webmail settings and if needed modify settings to suit, or switch off some settings.

[boothy99]

Hi ianblenkinsop,

You could try sending the persistent spam to phishing.gov.uk. it's worked well for me and has reduced my spam to almost nothing.

Here's a link and copied message from a while back with the details....

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Email/Spam/m-p/4848262#M227484

....... In the past I used a filter to attempt to stem the flow of crud, which worked pretty effectively, if updated often enough with new additions as more came through.

However, since I started to send the c**p to this government department, via report@phishing.gov.uk  ..... 

(See information here) -

https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/information/report-suspicious-emails

.... I've hardly had any rubbish even into my spam folder over the last few months, let alone in my inbox. The servers sending this crud out seem to be getting effectively blocked. I'd highly recommend giving it a go.

Rather than simply forwarding the spam-crud directly (you could try though) as this might get blocked by Virgin's filters 🤔🤨 !!! ... I tend to "Save-as" a *.eml  file and forward the saved file(s) (as a batch) to the email I gave above. No need to subscribe and it's automated apparently - sending you a brief email of confirmation as soon as they receive your files (so no need to write anything in the email you send).

It took a few sendings of a number of crud, but whoever was sending it out soon got stomped on by the looks of it 😁

[ALF28]

blocking spam-one easy way.

Since I have used the email filters to "discard"   (or you can file to the spam folder), specific spam senders using filter conditions "from" or "body" contains- then add the keywords , I have been free of spam emails for several weeks now, just one new one, a  gambling spam email today which I have added to my filter to discard.

I set repeat spam  emails to discard (deletes out the email prior to delivery) in actions, and use other filters to catch new spam which I file in actions to the spam folder for inspection.

The keywords can be anything, sender email address, company name, product, or any other identifier in the spam email, or in some cases use several keywords/conditions to get better filtering reliability.

It great to have the spammers blocked and a relatively clean inbox

[ALF28]

Danger of spam emails- do not take chances- avoid them.

"Any" emails may have dangerous content, so wise to set up filters for routing genuine known sender emails to folders, and assume the rest are spam/scam emails, best left untouched, they may be from spammers, scammers and hackers.

Spam email may have "hidden content" which can infect computers, I recently had a newsletter that when viewed brought up a box on the screen and my computer crashed and had to be restored today, but it could have been windows update problems, not sure.

Some emails are base 64 encoded or envelopes to get past security and may have methods of delivering malware via hyperlinks, attachments, downloads, linked images or JavaScript, html etc.

Emails can be spoofed with a fake sender address, or forged, it is often difficult to know this, and they may appear to be genuine but may be fake.

It brought home the importance of avoiding any interaction with emails which may be spoofed, phishing etc., or may be linked to fake websites and could infect computers with malware, trojans, spyware etc. and may lead to bank fraud or identity theft.

Scam emails can originate from hackers who use data breaches to get hold of data such as email, passwords, contacts etc., I was a victim of that with the LinkedIn data breach and My Heritage data breach, and the scam emails begin and can last for years.

As company data breaches happen on a daily basis, nothing is totally safe now.

Avoid using any email that get a lot of spam, more than likely it will show it has been hacked on the web site "have I been pwned."

I now use alternative free emails such as gmail.com, oulook.com, yahoo.com.

My virgin ntlworld.com email shows 10 data breaches and 1 paste. (2016 to 2021)

[ALF28]

Infections/virus from emails-I may have had one recently?

A very interesting article see-

Can You Get a Virus From Opening an Email? (whatismyipaddress.com)

8 Ways to Avoid Falling Victim of Computer Viruses (whatismyipaddress.com)

[ALF28]

Update on spam emails-

Persistent spam from in.camarel.eu seems to have stopped and general spam has reduced a lot.

Perhaps virgin is blocking them.

I try not to click on spam emails to read them, as it can provide feedback to spammers that the emails have been read, so more will be sent.

I now ensure all spam goes to the spam folder which may help train the virgin filters.

Filters can be used to discard or file to the spam folder, or mark as spam or move to spam manually using search and select all.