and..off the subject here but fyi, my avatar is an Apulian ( Grecia Magna) redware kylix glaux ( Glaux=owl, the a symbol of Athena) cica middle 3rd century BC. At a Greek citizens funeral ( albeit a Greek Colonists funeral) during the services a ceremonial swig of watered down wine was drunk from this bowl by the celebrants and carefully deposited as a grave good.
I told you I did material culture studies and not VM customer services studies
This was to provide some light relief of my apparant insoluble problem. and don't get me started on Athenian stanaphophores
@Johnny65and don't get me started on Athenian stanaphophores
You keep on referring to these, so actually yes, I'd like to get you started. In no more than 800 characters, can you explain what these are, a few basics about the history, what relevance they have to the rest of us, and thus leave us better educated about the world?
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Mass classic Athenian tetradrachm owl c 454-405BC c 17.2 gm c 23/4 mm. Dumpy, often ill struck, archaic or crude design. This a a good example most are incredibily badly struck on crude planchets..
This is an Athenian tetradrachm of the very first issue of c 164 BC that replaced the dumpy crude earlier coins...suddenly an artistic and politcal change that started c 180 in Asia Minor gave rise to c 30mm, better struck coins of better or new propaganist reverse types that advertised the minting polis, and originally at full mweight c 17g reduced to c 16.80 gm. Many local coins from of this transformation exhibit the Stephanophore-a crown of leaves , in this case olve, in a wreath.( my coin)
From the polis of Kyme in asia minor c 140's BC ( Mine)