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Hub 5 constant disconnections

Cyborgmatt
Tuning in

Upgraded to GIG1 earlier this year, been getting multiple daily disconnections lately. Hub 5 is running in modem mode. Not an issue with my router, seems to be related to the hub or the connection itself.

Status

Item Status Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel(Hz)138000000Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel(Hz)49600000Ranged
Provisioning StateOnlineOperational

 

Downstream

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
11380000000.341QAM 2561
21460000000.641QAM 2562
31540000000.841QAM 2563
4162000000-1.141QAM 2564
5170000000-1.341QAM 2565
6178000000-1.541QAM 2566
7186000000-1.541QAM 2567
8194000000-1.541QAM 2568
9202000000-1.441QAM 2569
10210000000-1.541QAM 25610
11218000000-1.641QAM 25611
12226000000-1.840QAM 25612
13234000000-1.941QAM 25613
14242000000-241QAM 25614
15250000000-2.240QAM 25615
16258000000-2.340QAM 25616
17266000000-2.340QAM 25617
18274000000-2.440QAM 25618
19282000000-2.440QAM 25619
20290000000-2.439QAM 25620
21298000000-2.639QAM 25621
22306000000-2.739QAM 25622
23314000000-2.939QAM 25623
24322000000-3.239QAM 25624
25330000000-3.539QAM 25625
26338000000-3.640QAM 25626
27346000000-3.640QAM 25627
28354000000-3.840QAM 25628
29362000000-3.640QAM 25629
30370000000-3.740QAM 25630
31378000000-3.840QAM 25631

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked413612389609026
2Locked413999705363670
3Locked412846763146990
4Locked412338510108613
5Locked418831692892840
6Locked419823858754161
7Locked411342031257442
8Locked41566026171
9Locked41364884626
10Locked41404514340
11Locked41441864535
12Locked40551365190
13Locked41576494754
14Locked41399502888
15Locked40287451917
16Locked40200601425
17Locked40155131380
18Locked40266022484
19Locked40615162118
20Locked39778953123
21Locked39587711981
22Locked39195031097
23Locked397172623
24Locked396228543
25Locked397516742
26Locked4083441098
27Locked4089501020
28Locked407655802
29Locked405322501
30Locked403980290
31Locked403921211

 

Upstream

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
04960000047.85120QAM 641
14310000047.85120QAM 642
23660000047.85120QAM 643
33010000047.35120QAM 644
42360000046.85120QAM 645

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
0ATDMA0000
1ATDMA0002
2ATDMA0001
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description
10-12-2022 16:37:07warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 16:18:58criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 04:00:54warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:54:48criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:51warningDBC-REQ Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:51noticeUS profile assignment change. US Chan ID: 6; Previous Profile: 13; New Profile: 11 13.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:47noticeREGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status
10-12-2022 03:50:42warningDynamic Range Window violation
10-12-2022 03:50:42warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:41warningREG-RSP-MP Mismatch Between Calculated Value for P1.6hi Compared to CCAP Provided Value;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:35noticeDS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:34noticeTLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:22warningDHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:19noticeHonoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv4
10-12-2022 03:50:04criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:50:04criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
10-12-2022 03:49:43criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 16:28:09warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 16:28:09warningDynamic Range Window violation
09-12-2022 13:37:25critical16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 3;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:37:25criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:37:25criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:35:45critical16 consecutive T3 timeouts while trying to range on upstream channel 4;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:35:45criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:28:07criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:25:46warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:25:46warningDynamic Range Window violation
09-12-2022 13:25:46warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 13:25:46warningDynamic Range Window violation
09-12-2022 13:14:07warningDynamic Range Window violation
09-12-2022 13:14:07warningRNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
09-12-2022 11:47:16criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
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Cyborgmatt
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Configuration

General Configuration

Network accessMaximum Number of CPEsBaseline PrivacyDOCSIS ModeConfig file
Allowed
1
Enabled
3.1
834ncxv9873254k;fg87dsfd;

Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic Rate
29902
1200000450 bps
42600bytes
0 bps

Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic RateMax Concatenated BurstScheduling Type
29899
55000270 bps
42600bytes
0 bps
16320bytes
Best Effort

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Errors may be a concern - but can you start from a clean sheet - do this..
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, when light, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done and back up, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

I'm already seeing RS errors within 10 minutes of following the instructions from your reply. No T1-T4 errors yet though.

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked414402372
2Locked413856115
3Locked41287222
4Locked4119850
5Locked4130150
6Locked4146390
7Locked411010
8Locked41430
9Locked41110
10Locked4170
11Locked4180
12Locked4050
13Locked4130
14Locked4140
15Locked4010
16Locked4020
17Locked4000
18Locked4000
19Locked4000
20Locked3900
21Locked3900
22Locked3900
23Locked3900
24Locked3900
25Locked3900
26Locked3900
27Locked4000
28Locked4000
29Locked4000
30Locked4000
31Locked4000

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Also, If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then, click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Ok I have set up a monitor, if the disconnects continue what would be the easiest way to arrange for a tech to check what is causing the noise on the line?

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
I have already asked VM staff to take a look at your connection and comment here

Post up the link to the BQM - "Share live graph" - asap.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Was stable for a little while but it seems we are back to multiple disconnects. Already had two tonight.

Live Graph 

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Natalie_L
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi Cybormatt, 

Welcome to the Community and thank you for posting. 

I am very sorry to hear you are experiencing issues with disconnections on your Hub 5, we will be able to help. 

I am afraid I have not been able to locate your account via the community details so I am going to need to send you a private message. This will be available via the purple envelope on the top right of this page. 

Speak soon, 

 

Nat

Hey Nat,

I sent a reply to your DM, but the connection has gotten considerably worse since my previous post, every day we are now getting multiple disconnects (almost 2 per hour).

Have already tried replacing cables, router etc and nothing has worked. Every day the modem is reporting hundreds of thousands Pre and Post RS Errors, with a ton of critical errors in the network log.

At this stage, I really think we need an engineer to take a look at the connection, please.