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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


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I have for over a year had a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV and when I received my V6 box when upgrading from the TiVo box, the V6 chose 1080p as the output. The box earlier this year packed up and an engineer brought a replacement box. This is also set to 1080p.

As nothing in the UK is broadcast in 1080p why does the TV choose this option? Should I keep the setting on 1080p?


...in all honesty - on a 40" screen, you won't notice any difference in picture quality no matter what your settings are set to. You would need at least a 55" to 60" and above to notice anything.


That just simply isn't true. 


....here we go again. 🙄

Of course it’s true - the differences between 1080i vs 1080p on a screen that small are negligible. You need a half decent sized TV AND to be sitting the correct distance away to notice the differences. How about actually doing some research before posting a comment like that...


There is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 1080i has the same resolution of 1080p. Both are 1920 x 1080. Both deliver the same image. 

I've also noticed you have mentioned viewing distances which you never did originally. 1080p or 1080i is the same be it on a 20" screen than it is on a 70" screen if both are viewed from the correct distances. 

Clearly it's you who needs to do research before commenting on such a subject. 

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1080i is the same resolution of 1080p, but an issue is what happens when conversion takes place in the V6 or TV. Take SD: it's broadcast at 576i but the V6 will pass through to the TV if the video output setting is 576i only. Clearly this is ridiculous when a lot of other video resolutions arrive at the V6, so a setting of 1080i or 1080p causes the V6 to upscale 576i to 1080p50 which works well in most cases. I have a Panny HD 1080p plasma which I prefer to do upscaling if possible, so the settings I have are:

  • 1080i
  • 1080p 24/25/30fps (pass-through)
  • 1080p

The 1080i upscales SD 576i to 1080p50 and passes HD 1080i to the TV.

The 1080p 24/25/30fps (pass-through) passes through to the TV.

The 1080p is for anything else (like 480p YouTube) which is upscaled to 1080p50 and sent to the TV.

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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


@Roger_Gooner wrote:

1080i is the same resolution of 1080p, but an issue is what happens when conversion takes place in the V6 or TV. Take SD: it's broadcast at 576i but the V6 will pass through to the TV if the video output setting is 576i only. Clearly this is ridiculous when a lot of other video resolutions arrive at the V6, so a setting of 1080i or 1080p causes the V6 to upscale 576i to 1080p50 which works well in most cases. I have a Panny HD 1080p plasma which I prefer to do upscaling if possible, so the settings I have are:

  • 1080i
  • 1080p 24/25/30fps (pass-through)
  • 1080p

The 1080i upscales SD 576i to 1080p50 and passes HD 1080i to the TV.

The 1080p 24/25/30fps (pass-through) passes through to the TV.

The 1080p is for anything else (like 480p YouTube) which is upscaled to 1080p50 and sent to the TV.


While that's true, it wasn't what I meant when I said there is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 

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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

k@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@GASteele2001 wrote:

I have for over a year had a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV and when I received my V6 box when upgrading from the TiVo box, the V6 chose 1080p as the output. The box earlier this year packed up and an engineer brought a replacement box. This is also set to 1080p.

As nothing in the UK is broadcast in 1080p why does the TV choose this option? Should I keep the setting on 1080p?


...in all honesty - on a 40" screen, you won't notice any difference in picture quality no matter what your settings are set to. You would need at least a 55" to 60" and above to notice anything.


That just simply isn't true. 


....here we go again. 🙄

Of course it’s true - the differences between 1080i vs 1080p on a screen that small are negligible. You need a half decent sized TV AND to be sitting the correct distance away to notice the differences. How about actually doing some research before posting a comment like that...


There is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 1080i has the same resolution of 1080p. Both are 1920 x 1080. Both deliver the same image. 

 


...EXACTLY.

Why do you think I said that the differences will be negligible? Because most people see zero differences in picture quality when their TV is set to 1080i vs 1080p or vice versa. 

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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


@deans6571 wrote:

@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

k@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@GASteele2001 wrote:

I have for over a year had a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV and when I received my V6 box when upgrading from the TiVo box, the V6 chose 1080p as the output. The box earlier this year packed up and an engineer brought a replacement box. This is also set to 1080p.

As nothing in the UK is broadcast in 1080p why does the TV choose this option? Should I keep the setting on 1080p?


...in all honesty - on a 40" screen, you won't notice any difference in picture quality no matter what your settings are set to. You would need at least a 55" to 60" and above to notice anything.


That just simply isn't true. 


....here we go again. 🙄

Of course it’s true - the differences between 1080i vs 1080p on a screen that small are negligible. You need a half decent sized TV AND to be sitting the correct distance away to notice the differences. How about actually doing some research before posting a comment like that...


There is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 1080i has the same resolution of 1080p. Both are 1920 x 1080. Both deliver the same image. 

 


...EXACTLY.

Why do you think I said that the differences will be negligible? Because most people see zero differences in picture quality when their TV is set to 1080i vs 1080p or vice versa. 


You were talking about screen size. Now you are changing your argument. 

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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

k@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@GASteele2001 wrote:

I have for over a year had a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV and when I received my V6 box when upgrading from the TiVo box, the V6 chose 1080p as the output. The box earlier this year packed up and an engineer brought a replacement box. This is also set to 1080p.

As nothing in the UK is broadcast in 1080p why does the TV choose this option? Should I keep the setting on 1080p?


...in all honesty - on a 40" screen, you won't notice any difference in picture quality no matter what your settings are set to. You would need at least a 55" to 60" and above to notice anything.


That just simply isn't true. 


....here we go again. 🙄

Of course it’s true - the differences between 1080i vs 1080p on a screen that small are negligible. You need a half decent sized TV AND to be sitting the correct distance away to notice the differences. How about actually doing some research before posting a comment like that...


There is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 1080i has the same resolution of 1080p. Both are 1920 x 1080. Both deliver the same image. 

 


...EXACTLY.

Why do you think I said that the differences will be negligible? Because most people see zero differences in picture quality when their TV is set to 1080i vs 1080p or vice versa. 


You were talking about screen size. Now you are changing your argument. 


...sorry but I'm not here to argue with you (which seems to be your only motive on these boards seeing that your posts are so sparse and argumentative all the time) - I know what I meant. 

...and just for the record - this is my last response to you as speaking with you is pointless.

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Re: 1080p on standard HD TV


@deans6571 wrote:

@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

k@shawty1984 wrote:

@deans6571 wrote:

@GASteele2001 wrote:

I have for over a year had a Sony Bravia 40 inch TV and when I received my V6 box when upgrading from the TiVo box, the V6 chose 1080p as the output. The box earlier this year packed up and an engineer brought a replacement box. This is also set to 1080p.

As nothing in the UK is broadcast in 1080p why does the TV choose this option? Should I keep the setting on 1080p?


...in all honesty - on a 40" screen, you won't notice any difference in picture quality no matter what your settings are set to. You would need at least a 55" to 60" and above to notice anything.


That just simply isn't true. 


....here we go again. 🙄

Of course it’s true - the differences between 1080i vs 1080p on a screen that small are negligible. You need a half decent sized TV AND to be sitting the correct distance away to notice the differences. How about actually doing some research before posting a comment like that...


There is no difference between 1080i and 1080p apart from motion. 1080i has the same resolution of 1080p. Both are 1920 x 1080. Both deliver the same image. 

 


...EXACTLY.

Why do you think I said that the differences will be negligible? Because most people see zero differences in picture quality when their TV is set to 1080i vs 1080p or vice versa. 


You were talking about screen size. Now you are changing your argument. 


...sorry but I'm not here to argue with you (which seems to be your only motive on these boards seeing that your posts are so sparse and argumentative all the time) - I know what I meant. 

...and just for the record - this is my last response to you as speaking with you is pointless.


Well don't state things that aren't true then you won't have a problem. I've helped you numerous times on these forums so it seems strange you think that way. 

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