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VOIP adapters for sipgate basic


I dumped my virgin phone as I think it positively antiquated to pay line rental in this day an age. I know in theory you dont pay any less, but in practise, I always forget that they will sooner or later bump up the price after discount period ends.

So thought it worth going voip as sipgate basic offer a free service with local code number.

Just trying to figure what adapter to get for this though - the website articles are quite general as to recommended adapters  and several seem to be difficult to get hold of, like the obi kit.

just want a single line to standard analogue chordless phone (my phone is also linked to door bell, so want to keep it)

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i used the LINKSYS SPA1001 many years ago. It does what you want.

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thanks,

the instructions for setting up sipgate account arnt all that clear to me. I have an account, allocated a number, but it says something in email about requiring postal confirmation, and also there is a start key required in account settings. Does this mean they are going to send me a code snail mail?

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You can also port your present number to Sipgate.

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I would recommend the Grandstream HT801 for basic home use. I acquired a white box version for just £31.59 including VAT and shipping.

Instructions for setting up Grandstream ATAs are on the Sipgate website.

In addition I made the following changes to the HT801:

Set "SLIC Setting” to "UK".

Set "Caller ID Scheme" to "SIN227-BT"

I have been really happy with Sipgate. Good call quality and low costs. VOIP requires only low bandwidth but also requires low latency. So the Virgin Media Hub 3 should be putting all SIP packets through one channel. No way of checking this because if you ask tech support in Manilla no-one will have a clue as to what you are talking about. But as I say, it's all worked fine for me.

3 things to be aware of though:

1. With the HT801 it is a single ring, rather than the UK double ring. It will sound like an American phone ring.

2. Caller display works fine, but I have a caller display unit that also picks up the time fas well. For some reason it always displays the time in Chicago. This doesn't worry me and I haven't followed up on this with Sipgate support. If anyone else has then please post what happened.

3. When I moved into our house 35 years ago, and while it was still empty, I laid telephone cable to every room. So we have a lots of phones. The HT801 didn't ring them all. I solved this by using an old ADSL Filter between the HT801 and my phones (this is the ADSL filter people had before everyone had faceplate ADSL filtering). You ignore the ADSL connection (of course) and just use the telephone socket. But it's not generally known the old ADSL filters included a ringing capacitor as well. The HT801 has an RJ11 female socket while the ADSL filter has a male BT plug. So you will need an adaptor. I achieved it with two adaptors I already had. But the correct adaptor can can picked up off eBay for a couple of quid.

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thanks for that, very useful as I did infact go for the HT801, as noticed the set up details were on the sipgate site, and it was cheap as chips on Amazon...under 30 quid

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all set up and running now, but boy, a little slip of paper telling me what the admin password was would have been nice

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I am using a HT802 since my old grandstream failed a year ago. I went for this in the knowledge that it supports IPv6 and have tested it accross the Hurricane Electric network I currently use for IPv6 at home.

I also have a 3 channel SIP trunk service from sipgate connected to an Asterisk appliance. But need to look to upgrade that device as and when VM role out the disaster that will be DS-Lite and I will need IPv6 support on all my devices. So thinking of using a PI with Astrisk and FreePBX, but will need another ATA for the little used fax connection.  

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I have the HT801 too. With regards to the ring, it will (and I believe most SIP adapters will) allow you to customise the frequency/duration of the ring.

These instructions apply to the HT801, but I believe they will work in others too: By default, it is set to the US ring, but all you need to do is edit the System Ring Cadence setting found in advanced settings of the HT801 web interface. It will read c=2000/4000; by default, which means 2000ms ring followed by 4000ms silence - the US ring. If you would like the UK ring, change this setting to read c=400/200-400/2000; which means 400ms ring, 200ms silence, 400ms ring, 2000ms silence - the shorter double ring with the long pause after the second one.

However, this first setting only changes the sound that someone hears when they call you, rather than your own ringtone from an incoming call. So, to also change your incoming ringtone, find the Ring Tones setting on the FXS Port page, and change that setting to c=400/200-400/2000; as well. You'll see here that you actually have room for several different ringtones, which you can mess around with, and even assign different ringtones to different incoming callers!

Here's a link to a page that contains a full list of settings you can change to fully regionalise Grandstream HT adapters for the UK, as they are usually configured for the US by default: https://www.ukvoipforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1061

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Thanks to reddev for his post. I had missed that about getting a UK ring on the Grandstream HT801.

However I don't think it is quite correct. The ring I heard when dialling my number has always been a UK ring, without any changes. The settings in the FXS Page only refer to the specialised rings when called from up to 10 nominated numbers.

To change the default ring to a UK ring you need to go to the advanced settings tab and amend the System Ring Cadence. This apperars to set the default ring and not the ring the caller hears when they call you (as mentioned by reddev).

P.S. Regarding Sipgate Basic. Has anyone yet managed to get the time signal that is embedded in the sent caller display information show UK time, rather than the time in Chicago?

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