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Upload dropped off a cliff

Grumbul
Up to speed

Since this morning a relatively stable connection has become almost unusable due to erratic and at times almost zero upload speeds.

Despite a regular 380Mbps download the upload speed seems to be close to zero.

After contacting VM via phone and using the 'new' text message link (amounting to turn it on and off again) we then spoke with a VM phone rep. We were informed there was an area issue affecting 25% of the customers in the area and that a tech team were aware and scheduled to repair today.

After some time we were also provided with a number to track the issue (basically the service status number).

That has been saying there are no known issues in the area all morning and up to and including the time of this post.

A second call again confirmed they are aware of an issue but no explanation as to why the service tracker has not updated nor if/when a tech team would be in the area. The status tracker continues to state their is no issue. The advice was to wait a few days and see if it remained unstable which sounded worryingly like a fob off to be honest.

So..... anyone have any experience of something like this? I'm just concerned that although an issue has been identified literally no-one seems to be able to shed any light on the problem at this time and the service tracker is not confirming any known issues (which it normally does). 

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
was that number... 0800 561 0061 ?

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That usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues down to postcode level. These may not be listed on the Area Status web page (Areas are not “Geographic” they are billing areas) as that usually only covers faults affecting 1000’s of customers) so phone may give you more info, but even that wont cover problems affecting just a few customers - or just you.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

That would be the number indeed and it is still saying there is no issue.

Upload speeds are almost non-existent right now.

As stated before I was told this issue was affecting 25% of customers so was being looked into. But nothing seems to actually support that. One customer service rep says there is an issue, another says there is not, the phone line you mentioned says there is not an issue.

It is just a merry go round and right now I have unusable internet with no idea what is going on.

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
OK - lets see the data..... an you do this...
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Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up dont login (unless you have the Hub4/5 - when you do login) just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4) or top/right (SH’s) of the Login page and then Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi jbrennand, 

Happy to jump through the hoops again with you....

Item Status Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel(Hz)331000000Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel(Hz)46200000Ranged
Provisioning StateOnlineOperational

 

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

13310000008.343QAM 25625
21790000004.741QAM 2566
31870000004.941QAM 2567
41950000005.642QAM 2568
52030000005.942QAM 2569
62110000006.442QAM 25610
72190000006.542QAM 25611
82270000006.742QAM 25612
92350000006.542QAM 25613
102430000006.242QAM 25614
112510000005.842QAM 25615
122590000005.742QAM 25616
132670000005.942QAM 25617
142750000006.242QAM 25618
152830000006.742QAM 25619
162910000007.143QAM 25620
172990000007.443QAM 25621
183070000007.743QAM 25622
193150000007.943QAM 25623
203230000008.143QAM 25624
213390000008.443QAM 25626
223470000008.243QAM 25627
233550000008.243QAM 25628
243630000008.143QAM 25629
253710000007.943QAM 25630
263790000007.843QAM 25631
273870000007.643QAM 25632
283950000007.443QAM 25633
294030000007.243QAM 25634
304110000007.143QAM 25635
314190000007.243QAM 25636

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked4300
2Locked4100
3Locked4100
4Locked4200
5Locked4200
6Locked4200
7Locked4200
8Locked4200
9Locked4200
10Locked4200
11Locked4200
12Locked4200
13Locked4200
14Locked4200
15Locked4200
16Locked4300
17Locked4300
18Locked4300
19Locked4300
20Locked4300
21Locked4300
22Locked4300
23Locked4300
24Locked4300
25Locked4300
26Locked4300
27Locked4300
28Locked4300
29Locked4300
30Locked4300
31Locked4300

 

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

14620000048.85120QAM 641
23940000048.55120QAM 642
332600000485120QAM 643
42580000047.85120QAM 644

 

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

Just came off the phone once again with the Phone Support and they are oblivious to any issues, so did the old on/off shenanigans once again with them. Lots of on hold. Then they decided there was an issue in the area again. When asked why the Service Status number was not showing any issues they were not sure. 

 

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Down powers a little high - but still all well in range - nothing else obviously amiss in those stats

Lets see the network logs and the BQM as soon as.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi jbrennand, 

Indeed, nothing amiss here and tbh a BQM trace is not going to show anything we don't already know. Something is seriously off with that outbound data, simple. This isn't a bad trace or packet loss issue during heavy traffic, this is a serious hardware issue somewhere off-property and VM don't seem to be acknowledging it or if they are the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing.

Apologies, I forgot the Network log - an interesting read.....

21-04-2022 16:46:31criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 16:00:33noticeCM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 37; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 16:00:28noticeREGISTRATION COMPLETE - Waiting for Operational status
21-04-2022 16:00:26criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 16:00:20noticeDS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:35criticalDHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:20criticalDHCP FAILED - Critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:19criticalDHCP FAILED - Discover sent, no offer received;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:16noticeTLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:14warningDHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:12noticeHonoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv4
21-04-2022 15:59:12criticalDHCP FAILED - Critical field invalid in response ;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:09criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:05criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:59:05criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:58:59criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:58:56criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:58:55criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
21-04-2022 15:58:50criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:56:35criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:55:37criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:55:31criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:54:46criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:54:45criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:54:30criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:54:29criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
07-04-2022 11:52:47criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
01-04-2022 11:02:09criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
25-03-2022 14:33:54criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
23-01-2022 09:52:31criticalStarted Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
19-01-2022 06:31:37criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
13-12-2021 07:05:46criticalResetting the cable modem due to docsDevResetNow

Another evening spent with VM and nothing.

No resolution, no idea of what may or may not happen. Essentially a connection that has great download and zero upload.

They had the audacity to tell us that 'technically' the upload was not guaranteed. From 35Mbps yesterday to 0.8Mpbs today.

Clearly not guaranteed even 'close' to advertised.

Every support chat, every person today has spun another tale. Local issue, area issue, your issue, equipment issue, wireless issue, ethernet issue, tuna sandwich issue.

Again, just endless merry-go-round with them.Nothing resolved, no clear answers, no genuine attempt beyond the script.

I don't even know if we have a tech coming on site they were that confused themselves.

22/04/2022 - 07.39am
Same issue. Download is great and as expected, upload sub 1Mbps. Essentially unusable.


 

Ryan_N
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi Grumbul, 

 

Just picking this one up - I will send you over a private message so I can confirm some details with you. 

 

Cheers, 

Ryan.