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Speed 'switch' has been reset

Tetsujin28
On our wavelength

When we first upgraded to M350 it took forever before someone eventually realised no-one had flipped the switch at their end to actually give us 350. It sat at 200 through several phone calls [mostly trying to get them to charge us what we agreed rather than double, so the speed lift was fairly low priority in that stream of phone calls]

We get back after xmas break to find it's back at 200 again. 
The results are too consistent between tests to different servers to be a concurrence glitch. The automated 'having trouble?' system thinks there's nothing wrong. I can't easily get to the line figures as the router is in pure modem mode requiring me to sit in a cold, dank junk room 3 floors below with a 2004 laptop [not joking] to access it reconfigured as a router.

Is there anybody on here who can poke the relevant department, or do I have to go through yet another hour's phone call [or three] where the CSR has not a clue what I'm talking about.

[Yes, I've rebooted everything, no I'm not on WiFi, internal connections are good at 1gbps [110MB/s or so actual file transfer speeds as expected], yes I do pretty much know how this all works I've been running networks for 25 years… remember Token Ring & AppleTalk? 😉

History from SpeedTest. You can see when the switch was first flipped. Also that we're still getting 37 up, which is incongruous.

ScreenShot 2023-01-04 at 10.42.23 am.png

Also, this is a little worrying - we've been customers over a decade...

ScreenShot 2023-01-04 at 11.48.43 am.png

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Jonny-M
Fibre optic

If you look at the stats page on the hub there should be a confirmation there of the provisioned service speed, what does it say?

Adduxi
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As above, Check the conf settings on the Hub. It will show what speed has been provisioned.
It's Configuration tab - Primary Downstream Service Flow - Max Traffic Rate.

 

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Tetsujin28
On our wavelength

As I already mentioned in my OP, I don't have a stats page, because the router is in dumb modem mode.
To reconfig it just to see some stats Virgin should be able to see from their end is far too disrupting. The router is three floors away from the rest of my network, meaning I have to drag a 20-year old laptop out of retirement [that I only keep just in case I am ever forced to do this], sit in a cold junk room directly hooked to it, working by torchlight, with the rest of the building offline until I've done.

I'm not sure anybody can troubleshoot any further in that case, we need to know what service your modem is provisioned to.

Tudor
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"As I already mentioned in my OP, I don't have a stats page, because the router is in dumb modem mode."

Not true, it’s exactly the same as for router mode, you do not need to even logon to the hub. Full instructions:

How to get stats from a VM hub (no need to logon to the hub)

Open a web browser and go to 192.168.0.1 router mode or 192.168.100.1 modem mode

  • Click on the “> Check router status” button
  • Click on the “Configuration” tab, copy the text and paste into your reply, do not take a screen shot


From my hub5, I have never ever run in router mode.

Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic Rate
53472
1230000450 bps
42600bytes
0 bps

Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFIDMax Traffic RateMax Traffic BurstMin Traffic RateMax Concatenated BurstScheduling Type
53471
55000270 bps
42600bytes
0 bps
42600bytes
Best Effort

Tudor
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't and F people out of 10 who do not understand hexadecimal c1a2a285948293859940d9a49385a2

Why are you saying that your "internal connections are good at 1gbps"? This has nothing to do with your reduction in broadband speeds. You need to confirm that your hub is provisioned for M350 by looking at the max traffic rate. Here's mine for M500, so your figure will be correspondingly lower.

Max Traffic Rate 575000000

If your max traffic rate is correct, have you tried another Ethernet cable? If yes, can you post some stats.
For a hub 3: go to 192.168.0.1 (router mode) or 192.168.100.1 (modem mode), do not log in, click on the link "Check Router Status".
For a hub 4: go to 192.168.0.1 (router mode) or 192.168.100.1 (modem mode), log in, click on the link "Check Router Status".
Copy and paste the Downstream, Upstream and Network Logs as text (not images). Mask any public IP address.

 

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Hub 5, TP-Link TL-SG108S 8-port gigabit switch, 360
My Broadband Ping - Roger's VM hub 5 broadband connection

Thanks for the info on where to find this data.

Max traffic rate looks low - 402500089 -  according to @Roger_Gooner
I mentioned the internal speeds because generally when anyone asks this type of question, the first responses are all 'Did you reboot?' 'Are you using wifi?' etc… so I thought I'd skirt all that first by explaining what I *had* tested.

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

1331000000540256 qam25
23390000004.538256 qam26
33470000004.338256 qam27
43550000004.640256 qam28
53630000003.940256 qam29
63710000004.940256 qam30
73790000004.138256 qam31
83870000004.438256 qam32
93950000004.540256 qam33
10403000000440256 qam34
11411000000540256 qam36
124190000004.340256 qam37
134270000004.140256 qam38
14435000000440256 qam39
154430000003.738256 qam40
164510000004.340256 qam41
17459000000440256 qam35
184670000004.340256 qam42
194750000003.740256 qam43
20483000000440256 qam44
214910000003.940256 qam45
224990000004.340256 qam46
235070000003.940256 qam47
245150000003.540256 qam48



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.3460
2Locked38.9340
3Locked38.9250
4Locked40.3320
5Locked40.3300
6Locked40.9250
7Locked38.9380
8Locked38.9410
9Locked40.3401
10Locked40.3360
11Locked40.3220
12Locked40.34112
13Locked40.3320
14Locked40.3501
15Locked38.9380
16Locked40.3530
17Locked40.3370
18Locked40.3480
19Locked40.32827
20Locked40.9430
21Locked40.3270
22Locked40.3320
23Locked40.3450
24Locked40.33913

 

 

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Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

12360000044.8512064 qam11
24310000045.5512064 qam7
33660011145.3512064 qam8
44960008345.3512064 qam6
53010000045.3512064 qam9



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000
5ATDMA0000

 

General Configuration

Network access
Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
Enabled
DOCSIS Mode
Docsis30
Config file
cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm



Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID423766
Max Traffic Rate402500089
Max Traffic Burst42600
Min Traffic Rate0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID423765
Max Traffic Rate38500089
Max Traffic Burst42600
Min Traffic Rate0
Max Concatenated Burst42600
Scheduling TypeBestEffort

 

Time Priority Description

05/01/2023 08:52:26Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/12/2022 12:17:15ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/12/2022 01:29:8criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/12/2022 00:17:14ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
25/12/2022 11:56:28criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/12/2022 12:17:13ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
21/12/2022 15:22:17criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/12/2022 00:17:12ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/12/2022 17:35:53criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
13/12/2022 08:24:43ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
11/12/2022 13:04:33criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/12/2022 03:09:40ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/12/2022 20:42:13criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
02/12/2022 17:42:19ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
29/11/2022 22:40:15criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
27/11/2022 23:37:1ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
26/11/2022 21:00:25criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
24/11/2022 11:37:1ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/11/2022 00:37:58criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/11/2022 23:37:1ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

That's the right config for the 350Mbps service (402500089 bits per second is 402 megabits per second).