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Slow Internet, Timeouts, Disconnects, Post RS Errors

knotnick
On our wavelength

Hello

I upgraded to a Hub3 to go from M100 to M200 this Sunday, and have been having issues with buffering, disconnects from MS Teams, and worse downloads speeds that when I was on M100.

Here are the router stats from today after doing a full reset last night and a reboot this morning

DownstreamBondedChannels     
ChannelFrequency(Hz)Power(dBmV)SNR(dB)ModulationChannelID
1330750000-0.240256 qam25
22587500000.240256 qam16
32667500000.240256 qam17
42747500000.240256 qam18
52827500000.240256 qam19
62907500000.240256 qam20
72987500000.440256 qam21
83067500000.240256 qam22
9314750000040256 qam23
10322750000-0.240256 qam24
11338750000-0.240256 qam26
12346750000-0.440256 qam27
13354750000-0.540256 qam28
14362750000-0.540256 qam29
15370750000-0.740256 qam30
16378750000-0.740256 qam31
17386750000-0.740256 qam32
18394750000-0.740256 qam33
19402750000-0.940256 qam34
20410750000-0.940256 qam35
21514750000-1.740256 qam36
22522750000-1.740256 qam37
23530750000-240256 qam38
24538750000-240256 qam39

 

DownstreamBondedChannels     
ChannelLockedStatusRxMER(dB)PreRSErrorsPostRSErrors 
1Locked40.3706498569871 
2Locked40.390840458139829 
3Locked40.362687315179280 
4Locked40.367889422983423 
5Locked40.948512361043133 
6Locked40.91596710389300 
7Locked40.3546738322 
8Locked40.3265383253 
9Locked40.3477373280 
10Locked40.31136589313 
11Locked40.3188086295459560 
12Locked40.32368532410026602 
13Locked40.3289284609776283 
14Locked40.3293347477936744 
15Locked40.3208921599347132 
16Locked40.9125707793421076 
17Locked40.3808463863461 
18Locked40.3127156514318 
19Locked40.96990196319 
20Locked40.34268635520 
21Locked40.383146 
22Locked40.389117 
23Locked40.377157 
24Locked40.380116 

 

UpstreamBondedChannels    
ChannelFrequency(Hz)Power(dBmV)SymbolRate(ksps)ModulationChannelID 
15370000036.5512064qam2
26030000036.3512064qam1
34620000035.5512064qam3
43940000035512064qam4

 

UpstreamBondedChannels   
ChannelChannelTypeT1TimeoutsT2TimeoutsT3TimeoutsT4Timeouts
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

And here is my thinkbroadband log from today so far

thinkbroadband link 

I'd appreciate any help on this please, and do let me know if there is any further info I can supply.

Thanks.

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Those RS errors are a concern - could indicate "noise" getting in somewhere or just be historical accumulation - so can you start from a blank page first by doing this...
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and any T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

Post back how it goes - but also .....

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Those RS errors are a concern - could indicate "noise" getting in somewhere or just be historical accumulation - so can you start from a blank page first by doing this...
_____________________________________________

Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and any T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

Post back how it goes - but also .....

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hey John

I have already done the power offs, and done resets too. Sometimes after a reset there's loads of RS errors right from the start, and sometimes they are all at 0 but then ramp up quite quickly over the next hour.

I used thinkbroadband monitoring starting from yesterday, not sure if that is what you are referring to?

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/f776444235b1dd909dece25b363c08b865... 

Since I posted the orignal message I have contacted Virgin, who said there is some backend changes going on, and I need to call back if the issue isn't fixed in 48 hours, so I guess I'll have to wait.

Thanks for the help.

Paulina_Z
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi @knotnick,

Welcome back to our Community Forums! Thank you for your post and I'm sorry to hear that you're experiencing some disconnections at the moment!

Thank you for sharing your BQM chart so we can see your disconnections! Sorry to see you've had so many so recently.

I was able to run some checks on your power levels and I have not seen any issues at the moment. Please keep an eye on your connection and come back to us after the 48 hours advised by our team. If this issue persists, we'll be happy to investigate further for you.

Thank you.

Paulina_Z
Forum Team

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Can I just check.. are yiu in normal router - or modem - mode ?

What devices are connected to the Hub on ethernet cables ?

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

I'm in normal router mode.

I've got all 4 ethernet cables plugged in -

  • Laptop and PC go through a 1GB switch into a port on the hub.
  • Xbox to a port on the hub
  • PS4 to a port on the hub
  • TIVO box to a port on the hub.

This setup is the same as it was before the hub3 upgrade.

Thanks.

knotnick
On our wavelength

Quick update, the 48 hours have passed and things are no better.

Called the same Virgin number I used before where I was able to speak to an engineer, but this time was sent a text and told 'goodbye'.

My internet has been offline for most of the day, just done another full reset and I can now get back online, but my download speed is still slow.

Also, pings to the Hub3 from my cable attached PC randomly time out.

ThinkBroadband for today 16th June 22 

Thanks.

knotnick
On our wavelength

Thought I'd add speedtest.net results on M200

Speedtest by Ookla

Server: TNP Ltd. - Manchester (id = 3504)
ISP: Virgin Media
Latency: 9.36 ms (2.23 ms jitter)
Download: 86.41 Mbps (data used: 109.8 MB )
Upload: 20.96 Mbps (data used: 19.1 MB )
Packet Loss: 0.9%

knotnick
On our wavelength

Quick update. It all seems to be working as expected now.
Thank you to those who offered help and advice.

 

Travis_M
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi @knotnick

 

Thanks for your reply!

 

Great to hear this is all sorted, I hope you have a great day!

 

Regards

Travis_M
Forum Team

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