cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Latency is getting worse everyday...

risc19
Well-informed

Day by day my latency gets worse and worse.

Wired connection in modem mode, connected to tp link archer c4000 (all cat 6 cables).

Only 4 devices connected. 2 wired + 2 wifi.

350mb, HUB3 in Reading area.

 

Snap shot....

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/2c90f3e8d3b925d928c0bcd773dcf108db...

 

Live....

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/b458c524725278d2e9cee955d93abc2c53616c62

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

17230000004.540256 qam40
25390000005.840256 qam17
35470000005.540256 qam18
45550000005.540256 qam19
55630000005.640256 qam20
65710000005.540256 qam21
75790000005.540256 qam22
85870000005.840256 qam23
95950000005.640256 qam24
106030000005.540256 qam25
116110000005.140256 qam26
126190000004.540256 qam27
136270000005.340256 qam28
14635000000538256 qam29
156430000004.838256 qam30
166510000005.140256 qam31
176590000004.940256 qam32
186670000004.938256 qam33
196750000004.838256 qam34
206830000004.940256 qam35
21691000000540256 qam36
226990000004.540256 qam37
237070000004.640256 qam38
247150000004.540256 qam39



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.3450
2Locked40.3290
3Locked40.3280
4Locked40.3270
5Locked40.9340
6Locked40.9340
7Locked40.3260
8Locked40.3320
9Locked40.3280
10Locked40.3420
11Locked40.3290
12Locked40.3610
13Locked40.3430
14Locked38.9490
15Locked38.9540
16Locked40.3550
17Locked40.3520
18Locked38.6650
19Locked38.9600
20Locked40.9600
21Locked40.3610
22Locked40.3500
23Locked40.3580
24Locked40.3590

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

16030002639.5512064 qam1
23940005637.5512064 qam4
34620002438512064 qam3
45370002939.5512064 qam2



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

310 REPLIES 310

Update: The afm has admitted it is over utilised. However it is not bad enough for them fix. 
My options are:

1. Leave (without fees). 
2. Escalate to management. 

The reason I’m sharing this is to warn others of what can happen. 

Believe me if I had any other provider I would take it. 

This stands as a warning to all potential customers. 

If you enter into a contract with these people you can be stuck with a knowingly under performing network that they will refuse is fix. 

Look at what I have been through, do you want the same?

I had years of over utilisation problems with VM and there were occasional "fixes" and lots of smoke and mirrors — such as closing fault numbers and issuing new ones … or "fixes" that lasted a month or two.

I think that in my area competition from Sky and particularly BT, who were very upfront and honest about what they could and couldn't do, meant that VM had to resolve the utilisation issues or start losing customers. It was finally fixed properly a couple of years ago and has been generally OK since.

But, Portsmouth has just been cabled by CityFibre. This is fibre optic direct to the front door with 1Gb download AND upload for around £40 a month from Giganet.

It'll be interesting to see what VM do next.

Andrew-G
Alessandro Volta

Things I observe here:

1) Mule like obstinacy from VM, so that it has taken four months to force them to admit that they have sold more contracts than their network can support around you (and not that far from VM's glitzy headquarters), despite the problem being identified by a forum user within three hours of your original post back in February.

2) When this started you were on 350 Mbps.  At some point you chose to upgrade to 1 Gbps (?), showing that firstly a Hub 4 on its own, with more channels and higher modulation isn't going to address over-utilisation, and secondly that VM are continuing to sell speed upgrades when they know (or should know) that the network is at capacity.

3) I'd say you now need to raise this as a formal complaint if you haven't already, wait to be fobbed off, and then escalate to CISAS asking for compensation under every possible heading.  I suspect that CISAS would readily wring several hundred quid out of VM, and an ongoing discount for the faulty connection, that would go some way to cover the costs of a slow ADSL or VDSL line for gaming and latency sensitive purposes, whilst keeping the VM connection for heft downloads and non-latency sensitive use?   If you do this, the complaint to VM needs to be long, precise and detailed, to specify exactly what you regard as an acceptable settlement, and to request a deadlock letter if the company can't immediately agree to settle on terms acceptable to you.

I'll flag for the forum staff since this matter could easily go to CISAS, which is slow and tedious for all concerned (as well as costing VM hundreds of quid in case fees), I'm not sure whether the forum staff can expedite an acceptable settlement, but worth a try.

Zoie_P
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi Risc19,

We are helping you with this, and have escalated your complaint as we could not come to a resolution, as I have advised in my message my manager will be in touch in regards to this.

Zoie

This is new...

Untitled.jpg

 

Also If I go to the hub4 GUI (but don't sign in) and look under network status it will show I do have pre and post RS errors.

Then I immediately sign in and check network status they are magically all reset to 0!

What the?

 

Anyone else noticed that?

Without signing in I got this.....

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Lock Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.98326100
2Locked40.36628700
3Locked38.98326130
4Locked40.36628720
5Locked40.94620910
6Locked40.94620910
7Locked40.36628700
8Locked40.366287110
9Locked38.98326100
10Locked40.36628700
11Locked40.366287140
12Locked40.36628740
13Locked40.36628710
14Locked40.36628790
15Locked40.366287130
16Locked40.94620920
17Locked40.94620960
18Locked40.366287112
19Locked40.366287232
20Locked40.36628710
21Locked40.36628700
22Locked40.366287416
23Locked40.94620910
24Locked40.94620940
25Locked40.946209110
26Locked40.366287162
27Locked40.366287130
28Locked40.36628720
29Locked40.36628780
30Locked40.366287712
31Locked40.366287132

3.1 Downstream channels

Channel ID Lock Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Correcteds (Active Profile) Uncorrectables (Active Profile)

159Locked432.349004439421

And after I sign in....

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Lock Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.98326100
2Locked38.98326100
3Locked38.98326100
4Locked40.36628700
5Locked40.36628700
6Locked40.36628700
7Locked40.36628700
8Locked40.36628700
9Locked38.98326100
10Locked40.36628700
11Locked40.36628700
12Locked40.36628700
13Locked40.36628700
14Locked40.36628700
15Locked40.36628700
16Locked40.36628700
17Locked40.36628700
18Locked40.36628700
19Locked40.36628700
20Locked40.94620900
21Locked40.94620900
22Locked40.36628700
23Locked40.36628700
24Locked40.94620900
25Locked40.36628700
26Locked40.94620900
27Locked40.36628700
28Locked40.36628700
29Locked40.36628700
30Locked40.36628700
31Locked40.94620900

 

3.1 Downstream channels

Channel ID Lock Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Correcteds (Active Profile) Uncorrectables (Active Profile)

159Locked432.349337464221

 

VERY ODD.

Hi there @risc19 

 

I'm so sorry to see your services have been affected and thank you for updating us. I can see that my colleague has escalated this for you and advised that a manager will be in touch. 

 

Please do let us know what they advise when they are in touch. 

 

Thank you very much again. 

Hello,

Yes, I'm aware of that and I'm sorry to bother you.

But I'm trying to tell you this is NEW behaviour.

Not my normal utilization problem.

As you can see if you look there is a spike each and every hour like clockwork.

The red was me shutting the power to the house off to do some work.

Untitled.png

It's certainly in keeping with this threads title.

Hi Rico19

Been following your post when I have time to update my problem here.

I hope your new behaviour dont end up like mine, from 1 hour spike to 30-60mins intermittent disconnection and ended up 1-5mins intermittent disconnection on a bad day (half of the week).