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Numerous pre-pull issues, no shows, wayleave etc.

rgriff14
Tuning in

This is my final step before I contract with a provider using Openreach, at least they are capable of installing broadband services.

My street has been cabled by VM (no doubt at great expense and causing lots of disruption, plenty of damage to pavements, neighbours gardens etc.)

But at least we get fast fibre now right? Wrong.

I placed a broadband order in February, and since then, installation dates have been missed twice, and we are now in limbo, with now no installation date scheduled and no sign of it ever being installed.

On 31 March, days before the re-planned installation was due to happen, I was contacted by email by the 'Residential Wayleave' team, who informed me that a wayleave was needed from my neighbours.

It is a shared driveway (so I can understand the initial confusion) however, the piece of the driveway that extends from the pavement where Virgin's 'Toby' is situated, to the front of our property (where the cable will need to be pulled) is our land and our neighbours only have right to cross it for access to enter their own driveway which is on their land (and nowhere near where cable would need to be pulled).

No problem, I thought, I will share evidence of this (a copy of the plan as set out in the property deed) and this should clear up any confusion at Virgin's end that a wayleave is not required.

I was then told that in spite of this clear evidence to the contrary, the engineer has informed them that they would need to cross my neighbour's property in order to pull the cable, and therefore a Wayleave is still required. This is clearly not the case and is in clear contrast to the evidence provided. 

I have no intention of asking my neighbour to sign a wayleave (a legally binding agreement which survives their ownership and would need to be disclosed on a future sale of their property) which is completely unnecessary - I would not be willing to sign a wayleave in this case so why should I expect them to either?

I have tried to speak to the Wayleave team (apparently there is no contact number, and the famous VM customer service is unaware of the team's existence!), I have tried reasoning with them by email, and all I get back is copy and pasted rubbish, or statements that the engineer has advised that a wayleave is required (again based upon eyeballing the drive, rather than based on whose land it actually is).

I have now incurred two months of additional costs with my existing broadband provider waiting for the installation to happen. I've tried chasing up installation only to be passed from team to team, each sharing either completely bogus 'pre-pull' dates. I have also had Customer Services representatives rudely 'mute' me, leaving the phone call running but with no sound when they cannot be bothered to try and help. I have raised a complaint about this (which is completely not acceptable customer service) but subsequently followed up and found that there was no record of the complaint!

I will not put up with this any longer so it either gets sorted or I'm gone.

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jpeg1
Alessandro Volta

Welcome to Virginmedia!

Just so you know, it doesn't get any better once you finally get to be a customer. 

- jpeg1
My name is NOT Alessandro. That's just a tag Virginmedia sticks on some contributors. Please ignore it.

Akua_A
Forum Team
Forum Team

Hi @rgriff14 

Welcome to our community forums and thank you for your first post.

Sorry to hear there have been ongoing issues with your installation. Our team would aim to get your service up and running as soon as possible. However sometimes, due to certain requirements such as wayleave, there can be delays in installation. When last were you in contact with our pre-installation team on 0800 052 1734? What was discussed?

Thanks,

 

Akua_A
Forum Team

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@Akua_A wrote:

Hi @rgriff14 

Welcome to our community forums and thank you for your first post.

Sorry to hear there have been ongoing issues with your installation. Our team would aim to get your service up and running as soon as possible. However sometimes, due to certain requirements such as wayleave, there can be delays in installation. When last were you in contact with our pre-installation team on 0800 052 1734? What was discussed?

Thanks,

 


Hi

My last call with that team was on 4 April. They had absolutely no clue what was going on, nor had they heard of the Wayleave team who had contacted me by email (who I was simply trying to obtain a contact number for).

You seem to be holding the pre-installation team out as some sort of specialist team, but from what I have seen, it is the same customer service reps that regurgitate the same rubbish and that have access to the same notes on the account as everyone else. 

As previously flagged, there is absolutely no need for a wayleave in this case, so the idea that is the cause of the delay (rather than the reality which is just simple incompetence) is misleading.

Adri_G
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi again rgriff14, thanks for the reply and for sharing more on this.

We're sorry to see your frustration caused by this delay and that you're not happy with our above advice in regard to reasons that may cause delays to your installation.

Please, could you confirm if you've received a request to submit a wayleave form that looks like this here by the team?

Also, can you advise if you've been given a new install date at this point or is there any new communication in your mailbox so far to confirm what's the next step?

From what we can view there is some external work pending completion before we can link you up to our network, however this has been scheduled on or before your install.

Please, let us know if the above and any more updates you may have since you last posted so we can assist further based on your feedback.

Adri
Forum Team

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jpeg1
Alessandro Volta

And you're still being asked about a wayleave, after all you've said. 

Unbelievable!! 

- jpeg1
My name is NOT Alessandro. That's just a tag Virginmedia sticks on some contributors. Please ignore it.


@jpeg1 wrote:

And you're still being asked about a wayleave, after all you've said. 

Unbelievable!! 


No, perfectly believable wouldn’t you say? It’s almost as if the thread is skim read, a few pertinent words and phrases picked out and a fairly boiler-plated response generated and posted.

Actually, that’s more or less how bots work, you don’t think……..

spell
Knows their stuff

A VM response which consists of absolutely nothing

-tony-
Alessandro Volta

@spell wrote:

A VM response which consists of absolutely nothing


nothing new there - the mantra is -

i must post something

this is something

move onto next post and repeat

VM the only CS help desk that use human bots

____________________

Tony.
Sacked VIP

jpeg1
Alessandro Volta

Well to be fair, the CS staff are not trained or resourced or expected to do more than just write platitudes. And I suspect they are not handsomely paid either.

I'll bet that most of the familiar names here would very much like to do a more helpful and satisfying job, if only they were enabled to do so. 

As with everything that's wrong with Virginmedia, it comes from the top.

"A fish rots from the head" 

- jpeg1
My name is NOT Alessandro. That's just a tag Virginmedia sticks on some contributors. Please ignore it.