on 13-04-2021 10:33
Despite being told not to, Virgin Installers came back to my property the next day and looped cables across my property to give service to the adjacent property.
I want these cables re-routed away from the property. What was a simple installation of one cable and box, now feeds four properties. Virgin do not have permission to do this, who should I contact to get these cambes removed?
No wayleave was granted or sought.
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on 22-04-2021 14:25
on 22-04-2021 14:53
Interesting but totally illegal to assume permissions especially as the first installation was without consent.
I don’t wish to digress but using your theory I can install a cable across your front door as I assume I have permission.
VM have never been granted permission to enter my property.
Sorry in law your argument is a non runner.I would ask contributors to post only fact please as this esoteric argument does not have credibility.
VM have no rights to my property full stop whoever they think gave them permission
22-04-2021 15:13 - edited 22-04-2021 15:19
That's an interesting argument. You are suggesting that a utility supplier should investigate the bona fides of the person giving them authority to install in the property where they live.
How long would that take I wonder, and how much would it cost every applicant?
VM have been given permission, but clearly it was given by someone not authorised to do so. The non lawyer in me would suggest your remedy would be against the person who broke the terms of the lease.
But I trust that VM will avoid any legal case by removing the cable
on 22-04-2021 15:26
It's a fact that VM signed a contract with the customer who was living at the property. If that person didn't ask for your permission then this is between the two of you. The installation is now regarded akin to a utility, so you must not remove it yourself.
on 22-04-2021 15:43
I would love to see that argument tested in law “Akin to utility” sorry as per previous post please don’t guess, it doesn’t help and only serves to dilute the issue on that basis any contract I sign without authorisation then you are a obliged to honour Really!
on 22-04-2021 15:59
Hi Jpeg1 interesting theory.
just as VM investigate and vet an applicant for service through credit agencies prior to granting access, there is only one person authorised to sign a contract relating to my property, and that is me any other is of course invalid I think we would all agree with this no matter who says he is authorised
so I hope to bring this thread back to the real issue now we have all had our say
Legal VM cable removal by VM
22-04-2021 16:11 - edited 22-04-2021 16:11
I don't think anyone disputes that your tenant should not have given permission. Only that he did, and the consequences..
You won't see this tested in court. VM will get round to moving it eventually. Do let us know when they do.
on 22-04-2021 16:23
VM have PM me to say they will send a field manager out to look at the installation.
good news on our way to a solution I hope.
I thank all contributors, I will of course keep this thread “open” And post progress and hopefully a solution
on 22-04-2021 17:18
on 22-04-2021 17:28
Meaning of Without Lawful Excuse
Section 5 of the Act sets out a defence to criminal damage charges, though not to aggravated criminal damage under s.1(2) – see s.5(1). A person has a lawful excuse if