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Wi-Fi and phone dropping out

KFarmer
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Wi-Fi regularly drops out as well as phone less frequently.  Have rebooted hub3 with no improvement.  All connected devices are within 8m of hub.  Network log seems to indicate failures, critical and errors regularly.  Don’t know what to do next?

 

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
see this
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Firstly... can we check… are the issues only evident on wifi connections or do you see them at the same times on devices connected on ethernet cables? If you don't know, can you check to help diagnose whether it is just a wifi issue or it could be network connection/Hub related?

What are the various Hub lights showing/doing when this happens if a Hub3 is the base light a steady white(ish) or flashing green?
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Also, Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up dont login just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3) of the Login page and then Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
see this
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Firstly... can we check… are the issues only evident on wifi connections or do you see them at the same times on devices connected on ethernet cables? If you don't know, can you check to help diagnose whether it is just a wifi issue or it could be network connection/Hub related?

What are the various Hub lights showing/doing when this happens if a Hub3 is the base light a steady white(ish) or flashing green?
__________________________________
Also, Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up dont login just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3) of the Login page and then Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks for your suggestions with this.  Here is some data

Network Log

Time

Priority

Description

26/09/2022 20:20:6

notice

LAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 19:44:59

Error

DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:42:54

notice

LAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:42:34

Warning!

LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:20:0

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:20:0

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:19:53

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:19:53

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:10:8

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:10:7

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:05:20

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:05:20

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:04:9

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:04:9

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:03:7

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 18:03:7

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 17:52:59

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 17:52:59

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 17:52:46

Warning!

RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

26/09/2022 17:52:46

critical

SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

SNR (dB)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

458250000

0.2

38

256 qam

13

2

426250000

0.5

38

256 qam

9

3

434250000

0.5

38

256 qam

10

4

442250000

0.7

38

256 qam

11

5

450250000

0.5

38

256 qam

12

6

466250000

0.2

38

256 qam

14

7

474250000

0.7

38

256 qam

15

8

482250000

0.9

38

256 qam

16

9

490250000

1.5

40

256 qam

17

10

498250000

1.4

40

256 qam

18

11

506250000

1.7

40

256 qam

19

12

514250000

1.7

38

256 qam

20

13

522250000

1.9

38

256 qam

21

14

530250000

1.7

40

256 qam

22

15

538250000

1.7

40

256 qam

23

16

546250000

1.5

38

256 qam

24

17

554250000

1.7

38

256 qam

25

18

562250000

1.7

38

256 qam

26

19

570250000

1.7

40

256 qam

27

20

578250000

1.5

38

256 qam

28

21

586250000

1.2

38

256 qam

29

22

594250000

0.7

40

256 qam

30

23

602250000

0.5

38

256 qam

31

24

610250000

0

38

256 qam

32




Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Locked Status

RxMER (dB)

Pre RS Errors

Post RS Errors

1

Locked

38.6

225505

601706

2

Locked

38.9

278613

621552

3

Locked

38.9

264246

700153

4

Locked

38.9

246624

809190

5

Locked

38.9

235786

829618

6

Locked

38.6

226211

807386

7

Locked

38.9

213395

858933

8

Locked

38.9

201311

805666

9

Locked

40.3

192991

786382

10

Locked

40.3

192096

827835

11

Locked

40.3

179480

826292

12

Locked

38.9

175464

834658

13

Locked

38.9

176830

805778

14

Locked

40.3

178730

835256

15

Locked

40.3

180129

827275

16

Locked

38.9

176720

833144

17

Locked

38.9

165792

793600

18

Locked

38.9

168388

785993

19

Locked

40.9

170725

814607

20

Locked

38.9

169543

792773

21

Locked

38.9

171713

815111

22

Locked

40.3

170252

884526

23

Locked

38.9

166687

845423

24

Locked

38.9

171621

860606

 

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

Symbol Rate (ksps)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

39400034

39.5

5120

64 qam

2

2

46200136

40

5120

64 qam

1

3

25800249

39.8

5120

64 qam

4

4

32600015

39.8

5120

64 qam

3




Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

1

ATDMA

0

0

1

0

2

ATDMA

0

0

1

0

3

ATDMA

0

0

2

0

4

ATDMA

0

0

5

0

 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/fc47e3c9db37991060df8bb629f0408277...

Any suggestions?

Adri_G
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hi KFarmer, thanks for posting on our forum page.

Sorry to see you're having issues with your connection on some devices, we're happy to assist with those.
As you've tried a reboot and had no improvements, could you try re-setting the hub instead?
You'll need a pin or pen to press the reset button (at rear of hub), press and hold it down for 30 seconds. 
Once released, it will take around 5-9 minutes for the hub to go back online, please check the connection again and let us know if this makes any difference.
(please note the hub will go back to it's default settings and any changes made previously with SSID and passwords will be removed)

Also, could you please advise if you only use WiFi and if all devices drop connection at the same time when the drop outs occur?
Could you run a speed test on a hard wired device and let us know if you find any slow speeds compared to the package you're on?

Lastly, could I ask if you're using our VM Connect App to check the connected devices and quality of wireless signal in the property?

Let us know of the above and we're eager to assist further based on your feedback.
Regards,

Adri
Forum Team

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Thanks Adri_G

I’ve reset hub and will keep looking at broadband quality monitor as well noting any disconnects on my virgin house phone and I’ll let you know how I get on.

Looking at my bqm and network log it appears that I am still having sync issues at random times.  Phone is plugged into hub and that can drop out mid call.  On virgin connect app it states signal in kitchen is great but network log differs.  I’ve either got a good service or no service.  Appears to be lost packets? As whenever phone or Wi-Fi drop there is a red spike on bqm.  Can last a few seconds or longer.  Do I need an engineer?

Hi Kfarmer, thank you for returning to the thread with an update!

So sorry to hear you are still experiencing issues. Having had a look on our systems all the signals coming in from the exchange are good, however your hub is experiencing an extremely high number of disconnections.

This indicates the issue is either with the cabling between your hub and the cabinet, the internal cabling in your home, or the hub itself. 

We will need to send a technician to you to investigate further and offer additional support. 
I will send you a PM to confirm a few details so we can get this booked in for you in the first available slot! 

You will find the PM in the top right corner of the page in your Inbox. 

All the best! 

Molly