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Virgin Superhub 3 keeps dropping connection from Virgin

CarlReeves
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I have moved home and had the engineer install my original Hub 3 at my new address. I was getting a lot of dropouts at my old house (Virgin Super hub 3 constantly dropping connection). Since moving I am still getting the same connection dropouts.
This is not wifi. This is the actual router disconnecting from Virgin. When I eventually can log into the router it says it has been online for 2 mins.

I have a 14 day cooling down period (starting from Friday 3rd Sept) and need to see this working properly before I cancel this and go elsewhere. 

I see it is getting RCS Partial Service a lot in the log file.

Anyone any ideas?

Downstream bonded channelsChannel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1299000000-0.938256 qam21
2139000000-0.730256 qam1
3147000000-1.731256 qam2
4155000000-130256 qam3
5163000000-2.228256 qam4
6171000000-229256 qam5
7179000000-1.431256 qam6
8187000000-133256 qam7
9195000000-0.534256 qam8
10203000000-133256 qam9
11211000000-1.533256 qam10
12219000000-3.530256 qam11
13227000000-2.227256 qam12
14235000000-2.436256 qam13
15243000000-1.437256 qam14
16251000000-2.537256 qam15
17259000000-1.737256 qam16
18267000000-3.537256 qam17
19275000000-2.537256 qam18
20283000000-3.237256 qam19
21291000000-0.438256 qam20
223070000000.938256 qam22
23315000000-0.738256 qam23
24323000000038256 qam24



Downstream bonded channelsChannel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked38.600
2Locked30.364845234734
3Locked31.65375572157
4Locked30.460429933170
5Locked28.7693689722220
6Locked29.4728267685788
7Locked31.3688761326598
8Locked33.354456819624
9Locked34.32891132823
10Locked33.4206754554
11Locked33.41560720
12Locked30.19732740
13Locked27.17029601394157
14Locked36.300
15Locked37.600
16Locked37.600
17Locked37.670
18Locked37.300
19Locked37.670
20Locked37.330
21Locked38.600
22Locked38.600
23Locked38.600
24Locked38.600

 

Upstream bonded channelsChannel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
12580000244.8512064 qam6
23259998145.3512064 qam5
33940000444.8512064 qam4
44620000745.8512064 qam3



Upstream bonded channelsChannel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

Network LogTime Priority Description
08/09/2021 18:07:45Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:52criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:42Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:22Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:12criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:06:2Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:04:52criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:04:47Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:03:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:03:18Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:03:13criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:03:1Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:02:52criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:02:37Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:01:52criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:01:36Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:01:32criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:01:27Warning!Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
08/09/2021 18:01:13criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Thats a poor connection - down channels 2-13 are dreadful - try this below - post the stats again afterwards. If it is no better you need the Tech back.

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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables.. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks for the speedy reply.

I've turned it off for 15mins, checked all the connections - all tight (was just installed last Friday and the engineer put new connectors on the main cable from the hub in the street and at my box outside).

Turned it back on and gave it 15 mins. Still the same errors. I've checked my neighbours router and they are not getting the massive errors I'm getting (Their channels 2 - 8 all roughly between 276 - 355).

Here's mine after turning it back on and leaving for about 15mins:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked37.63731
2Locked30.2129893647124853
3Locked31.41095188199265
4Locked30.212164257880880
5Locked28.6142506915733307
6Locked29.21426743842590046
7Locked31.1135614453574656
8Locked33.4108090275243304
9Locked34.46103052519639
10Locked33.4450744161767
11Locked33.3512136450
12Locked29.938411227350
13Locked27.81404271125539306
14Locked36.661142
15Locked37.638021
16Locked37.632918
17Locked37.627046
18Locked36.64245663
19Locked37.6702326
20Locked37.373919
21Locked38.63692
22Locked38.64170
23Locked38.62950
24Locked38.9660

 

I appreciate all your help.

Thanks for the speedy reply.

After turning it off for 10 mins, checked cables - all tight. It was just installed last Friday and the engineer replaced the connectors on the main cable from street hub to house. 

After turning it back on and leaving it for about 15 mins I get the same errors. I've checked with my neighbours router and they only have errors on channels 2 - 8 at 276 - 355 max. Could it be my superhub 3?

My recent errors are:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked37.63731
2Locked30.2129893647124853
3Locked31.41095188199265
4Locked30.212164257880880
5Locked28.6142506915733307
6Locked29.21426743842590046
7Locked31.1135614453574656
8Locked33.4108090275243304
9Locked34.46103052519639
10Locked33.4450744161767
11Locked33.3512136450
12Locked29.938411227350
13Locked27.81404271125539306
14Locked36.661142
15Locked37.638021
16Locked37.632918
17Locked37.627046
18Locked36.64245663
19Locked37.6702326
20Locked37.373919
21Locked38.63692
22Locked38.64170
23Locked38.62950
24Locked38.9660

 

I appreciate all your help.

I've replied 3 times now with the info asked and every time the post gets deleted.

What's going on here?

The data looks to be there!

The connection is terrible as John says!

Personally I'd call it in:

You could call it in as a fault on 150 (or 1345 454 1111)
It'll ask you to reboot the hub (as you already have done - don't)
You will then be cut off
Wait a couple of minutes
Call 150 again - report a broadband fault - The system will recognise that you called before and transfer you to a person!



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Hub 3 - Modem Mode - TP-Link Archer C7

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
I will flag for VM to take a look here

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hayley_S
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Hello @CarlReeves,

 

Welcome to the community page, thank you for posting on here.

 

I am sorry for the issues with your Hub-3.

 

I located your account and I can see that you need a tech visit, I will send you a private message so I can process this for you.

 

Please look out for a plum envelope at the top right of the page. 

 

Many thanks,

Hayley
Forum Team



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Thanks John for your help and for passing onto VM.

An engineer came out and diagnosed a problem with the cable coming from box in street to box on my house. The cable was installed and buried about 15 years ago so no surprise there. He has installed a temporary line for now and it will be properly installed/buried on next visit.

I'm now getting full speed 216 Mbps down and 22 Mbps up and no dropouts. V happy with that.

So far no more Post PS errors (actually I just checked and there are a few) - are they acceptable?

Here's my downstream now:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.670
2Locked37.31411
3Locked37.6130
4Locked38.670
5Locked38.6716
6Locked38.63314
7Locked38.62819
8Locked38.63614
9Locked38.9180
10Locked38.6110
11Locked38.670
12Locked38.650
13Locked38.690
14Locked38.6100
15Locked38.6110
16Locked38.6170
17Locked38.6180
18Locked38.6270
19Locked38.9120
20Locked38.660
21Locked38.930
22Locked38.650
23Locked38.660
24Locked38.6100

 

Thanks folks.

Their will always be some Post RS Errors its fine  

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