Thanks for that info will have to reset them first. I did try one but it messed internet up had to go into Hub settings and reset the security setting, iPads and iPhones kept giving WiFi warning weak security. had to set to WPA2-PSK things must have reset back to Basics. I have 4 Powerline adapters all Ethernet, working with a good setup on BT Hub. I could Backup my Laptop downstairs to the Server in spare bedroom But I had to change to Virgin to get the internet speed to our new Sony Smart TV, BT could only provide 30-50Mbs to our postcode area. The Virgin internet is up to 7x faster not a problem in the house at its lowest I get 60Mbs in the kitchen and that is with water pipes and electric meter in the path. I did not want to damage the Hub. I just seen it somewhere that there was 2 settings on the Virgin Hub, Router and Modem ? it is in Router mode as I want the fast WiFi. May get a WiFi Extender with a Ethernet output then run TP-Link from that but like you said will to check all the IP s. Thanks.