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T3 Errors, needing to restart hub to regain connection

lethaltoast
On our wavelength

Hi all,

 

Or the past 5-7 days I've had my connection knocked offline multiple times per day, more frequently in the afternoon but has happened on many assorted hours of the day. Can't connect or even interface with the router over LAN unless I unplug and replug the router.

 

Have tried removing all powerline/LAN additions, setting static IP addresses to power-hungry devices and removing them altogether, factory resetting the router and all without any luck. Using the diagnostic tool and calling the the diagnostic line, there are apparently no faults in my area. I heavily rely on this connection as I work from home. Please help urgently. Problems started around 14th Sept.

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lethaltoast
On our wavelength

UPDATE:

Engineer checked the exchange as per my suggestion from a couple of weeks ago. Apparently it turns out my connection was extremely loose and could almost fall out just with a light touch.

It's a shame that the exchange cabinet wasn't checked earlier, but for the time being no issues since engineer visit and under replicable stress tests.

Will monitor for the next 2 days.

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lethaltoast
On our wavelength

Router Status

Cable Modem Status

Item

Status

Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel (Hz)

203000000

Locked

Ranged Upstream Channel (Hz)

53700000

Locked

Provisioning State

Online

 

 

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

SNR (dB)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

203000000

2.5

38

256 qam

9

2

211000000

2.2

38

256 qam

10

3

219000000

2.5

38

256 qam

11

4

227000000

2.4

38

256 qam

12

5

235000000

1.7

38

256 qam

13

6

243000000

1.4

38

256 qam

14

7

251000000

1.4

40

256 qam

15

8

259000000

1.5

40

256 qam

16

9

267000000

1

40

256 qam

17

10

275000000

1

38

256 qam

18

11

283000000

0.9

38

256 qam

19

12

291000000

0.5

38

256 qam

20

13

299000000

0

38

256 qam

21

14

307000000

0.2

38

256 qam

22

15

315000000

0.7

38

256 qam

23

16

323000000

0.7

38

256 qam

24

17

331000000

0.7

38

256 qam

25

18

339000000

0.9

40

256 qam

26

19

347000000

0.9

38

256 qam

27

20

355000000

0.4

40

256 qam

28

21

363000000

0.2

40

256 qam

29

22

371000000

0.2

40

256 qam

30

23

379000000

0.4

38

256 qam

31

24

387000000

0.2

38

256 qam

32



Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Locked Status

RxMER (dB)

Pre RS Errors

Post RS Errors

1

Locked

38.9

5

0

2

Locked

38.6

5

0

3

Locked

38.9

0

0

4

Locked

38.9

3

0

5

Locked

38.9

0

0

6

Locked

38.6

0

0

7

Locked

40.9

0

0

8

Locked

40.3

4

0

9

Locked

40.3

0

0

10

Locked

38.9

0

0

11

Locked

38.9

4

0

12

Locked

38.9

5

0

13

Locked

38.9

0

0

14

Locked

38.9

6

0

15

Locked

38.9

5

0

16

Locked

38.9

5

0

17

Locked

38.9

0

0

18

Locked

40.3

4

0

19

Locked

38.9

5

0

20

Locked

40.3

0

0

21

Locked

40.3

4

0

22

Locked

40.3

6

0

23

Locked

38.9

5

0

24

Locked

38.9

0

0

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

Symbol Rate (ksps)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

53700000

47.8

5120

64 qam

6

2

60300000

48.3

5120

64 qam

5

3

46200000

46.8

5120

64 qam

7

4

39400000

46.3

5120

64 qam

8



Upstream bonded channels (2)

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

1

ATDMA

0

0

0

0

2

ATDMA

0

0

0

0

3

ATDMA

0

0

0

0

4

ATDMA

0

0

0

0

 

General Configuration

Network access

Allowed

Maximum Number of CPEs

1

Baseline Privacy

Enabled

DOCSIS Mode

Docsis30

Config file

cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm



Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID

59040

Max Traffic Rate

402500089

Max Traffic Burst

42600

Min Traffic Rate

0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID

59039

Max Traffic Rate

38500089

Max Traffic Burst

42600

Min Traffic Rate

0

Max Concatenated Burst

42600

Scheduling Type

BestEffort

Network Log
Time
Priority
Description
24/09/2021 15:10:41
notice
LAN login Success;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:38
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/09/2021 16:35:8
Warning!
RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:37
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/09/2021 08:16:41
notice
NOTICE ATOM is restarted as part of Self Healing Mechanism;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:36
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
23/09/2021 00:16:32
notice
NOTICE ATOM is restarted as part of Self Healing Mechanism;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:38
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/09/2021 19:19:8
notice
LAN login Success;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:38
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/09/2021 18:43:31
notice
LAN login Success;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:36
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/09/2021 17:25:24
critical
SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/09/2021 13:03:26
Warning!
RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:37
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
21/09/2021 00:16:47
notice
NOTICE ATOM is restarted as part of Self Healing Mechanism;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:38
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
19/09/2021 22:28:27
notice
LAN login Success;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:36
critical
No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
19/09/2021 20:20:42
notice
LAN login Success;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;




jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

Stats all look fine - logs dont though - the dreaded ATOM error (not sure what that is!) that crops up with some users from time to time.

Do you see the disconnections on ethernet cable connections at the same time as on wifi ones - if you arent sure - can you test it

Whilst waiting for more input can you do this....
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If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph” (as per instructions on the TB website) when it starts to develop.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi jbrennand,

it's hard to test on a day-to-day basis but so far my findings are as follows:

Device 1
Direct Ethernet Connection next to router - frequent disconnects every 15 or so minutes on average when being used (or woke)
Wifi Mode - still frequent disconnects on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands respectively.

Device 2 (Work PC)
Powerline - on average used to hold steady whilst other device above was asleep, now also disconnects very frequently disconnects
Wifi mode - Holding steady for today so far but has dipped before relatively as frequently with my other device.

Luckily for yourself i've had a broadband monitor since January! 😄 Here's the live share link:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/2897ad9b407bd5342714b159dc2796e7cd...

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
The BQM is showing the disconnects as are the T3's in the logs - but the Hub stats are all fine.

Can you try some basics first...

First switch the Hub off for 5 minutes AND unplug it from the mains. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends or loose wires on the connectors . Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box.

Next disconnect the powerlines from the Hub and unplug them - there have been threads where faulty extra equipment is causing similar issues.

Then replace the ethernet cable on the direct connection for a new cat6a one - also use a different device if you have one - as current one may be an issue.

Then switch the Hub on again and leave 5 minutes. Check connectivity and in particular whether the "red disconnect spikes" - disappear or remain.

Later on reconnect the powerlines and see if that causes further issues.

Otherwise a VM person (or someone more tech savvy on here) will respond in a day or two and be able to offer some insights - I am still concerned about the ATOM self-healing messages appearing

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hello again jbrennand,

I've followed your checks, removed the powerline and ethernet connections from my network and the problem still persist even when completely wireless. In fact, device 1 almost instantly EMP'd my home's connection on wireless similarly to how device 2 and other devices (3, 4 and 5) have acted previously. It seems very odd that the connection is unstable no matter what device.

I'm also very concerned about this connection. To have intermittence repeatedly for 10+ days has been a real pain. I'd be disappointed if the official resolution was "Don't use ethernet cables or powerlines" as the network has been completely fine with the circuit for many months, even with new cat6e cables, but for this problem to persist even without them is doubly concerning.

I'd hope this may an issue a VM engineer could take a peep at connections-wise in the street perhaps?

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
I will flag for a VM person to take a look - keep checking back

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thank you.