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Speed and connection problems

Hi

I’m having speed and connection problems. Sometimes speeds drops down to around 2 Mbps for some devices and sometimes devices are disconnected. Restarting the Super Hub 2 fixes the problems temporarily.

I called Virgin for technical support and was given two options: pay to activate a new router or enter into a new contract which would come with a new router. Neither of these seem satisfactory; I don’t see why a contract negotiation should be conflated with tech support or why I should have to pay to solve the issue.

I initiated a second call today for technical support and something was done remotely to the router. Sadly, the problems continue.

I don’t seem to be getting anywhere solving these problems. Does anyone know how I can escalate this matter?

Here are the network logs:

First TimeLast TimePriorityError NumberDescription
01/02/2023 21:49:27 GMT01/02/2023 21:49:27 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
01/02/2023 21:48:26 GMT01/02/2023 21:48:26 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedNotice (6)84000510Downstream Locked Successfully
01/02/2023 17:37:10 GMT01/02/2023 17:37:10 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
01/02/2023 17:36:06 GMT01/02/2023 17:36:06 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedNotice (6)84000510Downstream Locked Successfully
01/02/2023 11:30:36 GMT01/02/2023 11:30:36 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
01/02/2023 11:29:33 GMT01/02/2023 11:29:33 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200

No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

 

Thanks

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Lets see the connection data - can you do this...
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Log in to the Hub and then Navigate to these “data pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page (see if they are different to above).

Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again). If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts
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Also, If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then, click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 1 WiFi, 1 on PA) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's. On 250Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.
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I can only get 1 table from the downstream and 1 from the upstream. I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I have a Super Hub 2.

Downstream  DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8

Frequency (Hz)139000000147000000155000000163000000171000000179000000187000000195000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock)LockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLockedLocked
Channel ID12345678
Modulation256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec)6.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.9520006.952000
Interleave DepthI=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV)3.802.622.192.662.802.712.482.21
RxMER (dB)37.3636.8436.8436.6137.6437.3637.0937.09
Pre RS Errors
11571396702874439433428339
Post RS Errors
293334301296276320301277

 

Upstream  US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4

Channel Type2.02.02.02.0
Channel ID1234
Frequency (Hz)49600000431000003660000030100000
Ranging StatusSuccessSuccessSuccessSuccess
Modulation64QAM64QAM64QAM64QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec)5120000512000051200005120000
Mini-Slot Size2222
Power Level (dBmV)46.0046.0044.5043.50
T1 Timeouts0000
T2 Timeouts0000
T3 Timeouts4000
T4 Timeouts0000

 

Network Log

First TimeLast TimePriorityError NumberDescription
03/02/2023 01:00:42 GMT03/02/2023 01:00:42 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
03/02/2023 00:59:53 GMT03/02/2023 00:59:53 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedNotice (6)84000510Downstream Locked Successfully
03/02/2023 00:57:51 GMT03/02/2023 00:57:51 GMTWarning (5)66050310Auth Success - Web login successful.
02/02/2023 22:34:29 GMT02/02/2023 22:34:29 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
02/02/2023 22:33:38 GMT02/02/2023 22:33:38 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedNotice (6)84000510Downstream Locked Successfully
02/02/2023 22:31:26 GMT02/02/2023 22:31:26 GMTWarning (5)66050310Auth Success - Web login successful.
02/02/2023 13:58:54 GMT02/02/2023 13:58:54 GMTError (4)68010302DHCP WAN IP - 80.193.40.177
02/02/2023 13:57:52 GMT02/02/2023 13:57:52 GMTError (4)68000407TOD established
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
Time Not EstablishedTime Not EstablishedCritical (3)82000200No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out

 

Thanks for your help. I'll look into the broadband quality monitoring that you have suggested.

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Hi Tony_New_York, thanks for the message and welcome to the forums. 

I m sorry to hear that you are having issues with the connection, can you do a reboot please. 

Would you also be able to send me over the BQM so that this can be looked into further. 

How is the service at the moment? 

Kind regards, Chris. 

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Hi Chris_W1

Thanks for your welcoming message.

We've been rebooting the Super Hub quite regularly to get things working again. My brother works from home, so he relies on it more than the rest of us. He says there are good days when the connection is working well and bad days when he has to reboot the router because either the speed has dropped right down or devices have been kicked off.

jbrennand helpfully suggested that I should setup a broadband quality monitor in the thinkbroadband website, but the monitor wasn't working until I changed a setting in the Super Hub.

I have copied and pasted the direct link to the live graph. Is this the data you were asking for?

Thanks for your help.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/35a74b45ea7c4dcfb133ce848beb3f9b4a... 

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Thanks for the reply @Tony_New_York on the forums.

May I ask if you're able to perform a factory reset on the VM Hub and then share the data from the BQM graph post reset, for the next 24 hours.
Pop a pin in the reset pin hole, located at the back or underneath the hub, for 40 seconds.
Let us know.

Kind regards,
Ilyas.

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Hello Ilyas

Thanks for taking an interest in this issue.

I reset our VM Super Hub to factory settings yesterday morning at about 11:30. I will now share yesterday's and today's BQM graphs.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/b0b41b565b31a2f995d157021b4dca01cc... 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/bf4cbcc78feda6871198800be8866c04c5... 

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Hi there @Tony_New_York 

 

We are so sorry to hear that you are still facing issues after the reboot, I have taken a look and I can see that there is currently an outage in your area. 

 

This is due to be resolved February 20th at 5.20pm. Are you able to let us know then how things are looking? 

 

Thanks again. 

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Hello Ashleigh_C

Thank you for your message.

We've been monitoring the service since 5:20 yesterday when you say the outage should have cleared (not that we saw any issues listed in the Virgin Media website) but we are still having problems.

We continue to have to reboot the Super Hub 2 almost daily because either the speed drops down or our devices get disconnected. We've been methodically and patiently following helpful advice from people in this forum and we are still having the same issues. Is it possible that the issue could be the Super Hub 2 rather than the broadband connection to our house?  When I first reported these issues by phone, I was told that my current Super Hub 2 is obsolete.

So as it stands, I'm paying £55 a month for a service which isn't working very well and to date the only solution offered is that I pay to upgrade it. Doesn't make me feel good about being a VM customer.

Do you have any further advice?

Thank you

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I'm so sorry to hear that these issues have continued @Tony_New_York and thank you for popping back to us. 

 

I can see that the outage has been extended to the 27th of February at 5.20pm. I am so sorry to hear that this has been extended, but are you able to let us know how things are looking after this time? 

 

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