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Significant packet loss - upload Area 31

StuartGMC
On our wavelength

Have had a lot of connection issues and TEAMS calls upload failing - ThinkBroadband speed checks show low upload speeds circa 2Mbps and the Quality Check shows significant package losses especially during TEAMS calls etc (high data demand). VM not reporting any errors.  Rebooted Hub (in modem mode) several times and also router but no improvementVM-isssue.png

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jbrennand
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BQM is dreadful. It is sometimes caused by 3d party equipment connections - so usual ask is to stick the Hub in normal router mode and disconnect all ethernet connections and see if the BQM "cleans up".
In the meantime can you post up the Hub data as below.
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In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1  (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) and hit return. On the first page up [there should be no need to login if you have done so before unless you have the New Hub4 when you do] click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle or top/right of the first page up and then just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 pages from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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jbrennand
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What Hub model is it and what router model do you have?

Are the problems only evident on wifi connections to Teams - or do you see them at the same times on a devices connected on an ethernet cables? If you don't know, can you check to help diagnose whether it is just a wifi issue or it could be network connection related?

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Work pc is on ethernet cable to the router and cable modem. Hub 3 in modem mode, TPLink Archer C3150 cable router. As you see there are drop outs when data handling is high. Not sure if it is only Teams - but no chance to check Zoom etc. currently due to meetings.

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jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
BQM is dreadful. It is sometimes caused by 3d party equipment connections - so usual ask is to stick the Hub in normal router mode and disconnect all ethernet connections and see if the BQM "cleans up".
In the meantime can you post up the Hub data as below.
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In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1  (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) and hit return. On the first page up [there should be no need to login if you have done so before unless you have the New Hub4 when you do] click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle or top/right of the first page up and then just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 pages from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks - Hub 3.0 data (still in modem mode):

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

11390000003.436256 qam1
2147000000336256 qam2
31550000002.436256 qam3
41630000001.236256 qam4
51710000002.736256 qam5
61790000002.536256 qam6
71870000002.236256 qam7
8195000000236256 qam8
92030000001.536256 qam9
10211000000137256 qam10
112190000000.536256 qam11
12227000000-0.436256 qam12
13235000000-1.736256 qam13
14243000000-1.936256 qam14
15251000000-0.936256 qam15
162590000000.436256 qam16
17267000000137256 qam17
182750000001.437256 qam18
192830000001.737256 qam19
202910000001.737256 qam20
21299000000237256 qam21
223070000002.437256 qam22
233150000002.738256 qam23
243230000002.738256 qam24



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked36.656513888324936
2Locked36.63453527647221
3Locked36.6109399282483856
4Locked36.684691466675158
5Locked36.686184461865
6Locked36.692555971885909
7Locked36.625612012740
8Locked36.659495931
9Locked36.31290110
10Locked37.38714823
11Locked36.6789471
12Locked36.31226476
13Locked36.31378618
14Locked36.6711761
15Locked36.6173340
16Locked36.642040
17Locked37.38650
18Locked37.66450
19Locked37.6750
20Locked37.6450
21Locked37.31030
22Locked37.6420
23Locked38.6320
24Locked38.6380

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

15370004948512064 qam2
23940005048.5512064 qam4
34620016648.5512064 qam3
46030000047.8512064 qam1



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0020
2ATDMA0020
3ATDMA0020
4ATDMA0030

 

General Configuration

Network access
Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
Enabled
DOCSIS Mode
Docsis30
Config file
cmreg-vmdg505-bbt057-b.cm

 

 

 

Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID145272
Max Traffic Rate117000047
Max Traffic Burst42600
Min Traffic Rate0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID145271
Max Traffic Rate10500047
Max Traffic Burst16320
Min Traffic Rate0
Max Concatenated Burst16320
Scheduling Type

BestEffort

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description

15/09/2021 19:04:3Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 19:03:44noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 19:03:16Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 19:02:36Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 18:50:33criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 16:14:18Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 16:10:43criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 16:08:12Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 16:07:19criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 15:08:23Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 15:07:39criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxCM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 15:07:23Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 15:07:0criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 14:46:49Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 14:44:30criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 13:16:51Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxxCM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 12:57:44criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 12:57:5Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 12:56:19criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/09/2021 11:48:20Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xxxx;CMTS-MAC=xxxx;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

jbrennand
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Very Insightful Person
Looks dreadful - too many post-RS errors and logs look awful too many T3's. Can you post up the link to the BQM and then do this.
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables.. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings immediately and ensure that the RS error counts and T3’s have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks for your time and advice, based upon this I called VM for support and they've remotely reset the modem/router which appear to have addressed the issues as indicated below and a speed check (awaiting BQM to update sufficiently to check):

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked37.352080
2Locked37.386860
3Locked37.375450
4Locked36.665214
5Locked36.663181
6Locked36.644260
7Locked36.612770
8Locked37.34410
9Locked37.31380
10Locked37.6660
11Locked37.3330
12Locked37.6250
13Locked37.3250
14Locked37.6230
15Locked38.6220
16Locked38.6350
17Locked38.6210
18Locked38.6230
19Locked38.6230
20Locked37.6150
21Locked38.6200
22Locked38.6270
23Locked38.6190
24Locked38.6170

Keep an eye on it - if it is a bad line - it *will* come back!



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Hub 3 - Modem Mode - TP-Link Archer C7

Zoie_P
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

HI StuartGMC, 

Thanks for your post 🙂 

I am so sorry you have been having issues with your upload, I have managed to locate your account and checked your power levels and can see you require a tech.

I will pop you over a PM and we can go from there 🙂 

Zoie