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New member - zoom issues

NinjaAndy
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Hi

I went live about 2 weeks ago. My connection would crash, and I'd have to restart the hub 3.0 to get back online. Engineer visited and swapped hub. It's been OK over the weekend... Fingers crossed that's sorted that.

I've noticed when using Zoom that my audio frequently distorts, it sounds like buzzing. People on the call also say when I speak it happens frequently. I'm on a 200mb connection, and when I speed test all looks fine...

Logs below:

Downstream:

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

1 331000000 8 40 256 qam 25
2 203000000 8.5 40 256 qam 9
3 211000000 8.5 40 256 qam 10
4 219000000 8.6 40 256 qam 11
5 227000000 8.5 40 256 qam 12
6 235000000 8.5 40 256 qam 13
7 243000000 8.1 40 256 qam 14
8 251000000 8.1 40 256 qam 15
9 259000000 8 40 256 qam 16
10 267000000 7.8 40 256 qam 17
11 275000000 7.8 40 256 qam 18
12 283000000 7.8 40 256 qam 19
13 291000000 8 40 256 qam 20
14 299000000 7.9 40 256 qam 21
15 307000000 7.9 40 256 qam 22
16 315000000 8 40 256 qam 23
17 323000000 8 40 256 qam 24
18 339000000 8 40 256 qam 26
19 347000000 8 40 256 qam 27
20 355000000 8 40 256 qam 28
21 363000000 8 40 256 qam 29
22 371000000 8 40 256 qam 30
23 379000000 8 40 256 qam 31
24 387000000 8 40 256 qam 32



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1 Locked 40.3 41 3
2 Locked 40.3 56 12
3 Locked 40.3 39 0
4 Locked 40.3 32 0
5 Locked 40.9 29 0
6 Locked 40.3 39 0
7 Locked 40.3 39 0
8 Locked 40.3 44 0
9 Locked 40.3 31 0
10 Locked 40.3 51 0
11 Locked 40.3 56 0
12 Locked 40.9 36 0
13 Locked 40.3 41 0
14 Locked 40.3 34 0
15 Locked 40.9 48 0
16 Locked 40.3 49 0
17 Locked 40.3 63 0
18 Locked 40.3 40 0
19 Locked 40.9 30 0
20 Locked 40.3 38 0
21 Locked 40.3 22 0
22 Locked 40.3 34 0
23 Locked 40.3 24 13
24 Locked 40.3 36

0

 

 

 

Configuration:

General Configuration

Network access
Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
Enabled
DOCSIS Mode
Docsis30
Config file
cmreg-vmdg505-bbt060+voc-b.cm



Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID 54072
Max Traffic Rate 230000061
Max Traffic Burst 42600
Min Traffic Rate 0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID 54071
Max Traffic Rate 22000061
Max Traffic Burst 42600
Min Traffic Rate 0
Max Concatenated Burst 42600
Scheduling Type BestEffort

 

 

 

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NinjaAndy
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Further logs:

Network:

Network Log

Time Priority Description

18/07/2022 09:24:31noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
18/07/2022 09:23:41Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/07/2022 14:40:20criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/07/2022 12:12:1ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/07/2022 12:05:51noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:43criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/07/2022 10:52:3noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/07/2022 10:51:42Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
15/07/2022 10:38:16noticeSW download Successful - Via Config file
15/07/2022 10:34:56noticeSW Download INIT - Via Config file
30/05/2022 15:54:38noticeUnit has been restored to factory defaults from a software issued command;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/05/2022 15:46:18criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/05/2022 15:33:24criticalTLV-11 - Failed to set duplicate elements;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
01/01/1970 00:01:36criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/05/2022 15:30:52noticeSW download Successful - Via Config file
30/05/2022 15:25:11noticeSW Download INIT - Via Config file
30/05/2022 15:25:7ErrorDisruption during SW download - Power Failure
01/01/1970 00:01:39criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/05/2022 15:17:45criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/05/2022 15:17:44Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

 

Upstream:

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

14620000037512064 qam3
23940000036.3512064 qam4
35370000037.8512064 qam2
46030000038.3512064 qam1



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0010
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0010

 

Any help  massively appreciated.

jbrennand
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Very Insightful Person
Are the issues only evident on wifi connections or do you see them at the same times on devices connected on ethernet cables? If you don't know, can you check to help diagnose whether it is just a wifi issue or it could be network connection/Hub related?

Also, If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

John

link here - activated last night. 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/0fff5b8a4f050da544029806e753de25db9cddde

 

This is WiFi, although its about 1m away from where I sit.

 Screenshot 2022-07-18 at 22.17.20.png 

It might also be worth mentioning that I sit in the same location, on the same laptop as I was when I was with Sky internet, and the problem wasn't happening... the modem/router is also in the same place physically.

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person
Thats one beautiful BQM - far better than mine - no evidence there of internet disconnections.

So what happens when you connect on an ethernet cable ? If thats ok then you have a wifi only issue that is a different kettle of fish to sort out - cant directly compare other ISP's for a few reasons. Bottom line would be you need to tweak/fix/improve the VM equipment if it is a Wifi issue

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Im on a MacBook Pro with no Ethernet port, so that’s difficult to test! It’s a work laptop, locked down, so I don’t think I can even connect a usb Ethernet adapter. 

are there any settings you’d recommend changing to boost Wi-Fi performance?

Or am I better off buying a standalone AP?

it’s been unstable on zoom all day - not doing my productivity any good, so keen to get it sorted asap. 

thanks for all your help so far!

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

I am on a Pro and have Air's too. I connect mine on ethernet cables from time to time. You just need to get an adaptor ethernet/RJ-45 to whatever port you want to use - I have them for UBB3/USBc/T'bolt - they all work great.

Here's a USBc one

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Adapter-Thunderbolt-Gigabit-Compatible/dp/B07XTGKP5M/

... or multiport ones can be had for a bit more money.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lemorele-Gigabit-Ethernet-Delivery-Multiport/dp/B08T5RNPYN/

You should get one and always Zoom on ethernet unless you sort the wifi. In that regard see this, although a standalone WAP is a good start
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If it is a wifi only issue, then on a Hub3/4/5, you can try separating the SSID's of the 2.4 and 5 GHz wifi bands by renaming them in the settings and at the same time switch off "channel optimisation/Smart wifi” “ apply and save the settings. All wifi devices will need reconnecting to the best SSID at each location. Also use a wifi scanning App to find the best wifi channels to use (just select and use channels 1,6,11 on 2.4GHz) - this often helps Hub users get better wifi performance - but its still no substitute for getting better kit 🙂
To address the wifi issues, VM now supply “wifi Pods” (no longer doing cheap and cheerless “boosters”). However, their Pods are only free to customers on the 1GB, Volt (or old Ultimate Oomph) packages - is that you? If so they are worth trying - they should work for you.

You do have to call in to order the first one (cant do it online the website is borked) - or try the web-chat function (that has worked for some) - or just wait here for a VM person to respond in a day or two and they will sort the first one for you .

If not… you will be charged £5/month (note - BT charge £10/mo for their whole home wifi solution). It’s a simple solution and should work for you. However, you would soon pay off that cost by buying your own wireless solution that will be yours to own and use forever, although the VM Pods should be a simpler option.

You would need to get either a… (1) Mesh System, (2) Wireless router, (3) Wireless access point (4) Powerline adapters (+/- inbuilt Wifi,) (5) A combination of (2,3,4).

£40-100 should sort it for most customers with an average property and usage.


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

I can't use any USB devices. My employer has locked down the laptop to reduce the risk of employees taking data off the network and saving it to USB etc...

Since Virgin replaced my modem, my connection has stopped randomly dropping (so far..) and the audio issue appears to have cleared up too.

Thanks for all your help! I think I might buy a separate wifi access point anyway...

Andy