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Loss of Internet in Cardiff

BALW
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Evening,

We've been suffering constant internet outages in the CF5 postcode area of Cardiff since the 31st October - when there was a solar flare that knocked out (temporarily) all electronic devices and lights across the area.

Our Hub 3 is in modem mode, running wifi network via a Tenda Nova mesh hub network. No issues until that Sunday, now the internet continually drops for 1-2 minutes throughout the day (15-20 times a day). 

We had an engineer out who replaced the Hub as well as the cable access point in the wall, but that has not resolved the issue. Honestly at a bit of a loss now as to what we can do, another technician coming on Friday but I strongly suspect the issue is not with our equipment (given it's all been replaced) and the WiFi network itself is fine, just the internet that is dropping out.

Any advice or help appreciated.

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jbrennand
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Very Insightful Person
Have you checked first for “known network faults” that might still be outstanding

As well as trying the “check service,” Area status webpage" (link at top right of this forum)...

.....also try the “free & automated” Service Status number - 0800 561 0061 - which usually gives the most up to date info. and tells you of more local issues down to postcode level.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi John, 

Thanks, the service status says no issue as does the phone line when I called (during an outage) earlier today, so sadly no obvious issues to pursue from that end.

 

jbrennand
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What are the various Hub lights showing/doing when this happens?

And lets look at the connection data - can you do this.
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Post up your Hub/network connection details and someone will check to see if there is a problem there.  In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1  (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) and hit return. On the first page up dont login just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle of the Login page and then just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 pages from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Ok thanks John - it was in Modem mode (so Mauve) but have switched back to Router now via Factory Reset and removed the Tenda mesh network - issue still persists and has become more frequent if anything. Light remains white in Router mode during the issues.

Details below for the Downstream/Upstream, Network logs separate

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

SNR (dB)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

139000000

4

37

256 qam

1

2

147000000

3.9

37

256 qam

2

3

155000000

4

38

256 qam

3

4

163000000

4.5

38

256 qam

4

5

171000000

4.9

38

256 qam

5

6

179000000

4.9

38

256 qam

6

7

187000000

5

38

256 qam

7

8

195000000

5

38

256 qam

8

9

203000000

4.9

38

256 qam

9

10

211000000

4.8

38

256 qam

10

11

219000000

4.6

38

256 qam

11

12

227000000

4.8

38

256 qam

12

13

235000000

4.8

38

256 qam

13

14

243000000

4.8

38

256 qam

14

15

251000000

4.5

38

256 qam

15

16

259000000

4.9

38

256 qam

16

17

267000000

4.8

38

256 qam

17

18

275000000

5

38

256 qam

18

19

283000000

4.8

38

256 qam

19

20

291000000

4.8

38

256 qam

20

21

299000000

4.5

38

256 qam

21

22

307000000

4.1

38

256 qam

22

23

315000000

4.3

38

256 qam

23

24

323000000

4.5

38

256 qam

24




Downstream bonded channels

Channel

Locked Status

RxMER (dB)

Pre RS Errors

Post RS Errors

1

Locked

37.6

182471

197093

2

Locked

37.6

82227

35555

3

Locked

38.6

145991

37503

4

Locked

38.6

167850

74216

5

Locked

38.6

39005

16730

6

Locked

38.6

34984

15416

7

Locked

38.9

33763

14843

8

Locked

38.9

33043

13841

9

Locked

38.6

31468

12922

10

Locked

38.9

31488

12628

11

Locked

38.9

30480

12360

12

Locked

38.9

29363

12182

13

Locked

38.9

28283

11632

14

Locked

38.6

27732

10560

15

Locked

38.9

27353

10040

16

Locked

38.9

27588

9666

17

Locked

38.6

27913

9941

18

Locked

38.6

27513

9542

19

Locked

38.6

26612

8686

20

Locked

38.9

25901

8052

21

Locked

38.6

25480

7744

22

Locked

38.9

25448

7346

23

Locked

38.9

26029

7567

24

Locked

38.9

25965

7362

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Frequency (Hz)

Power (dBmV)

Symbol Rate (ksps)

Modulation

Channel ID

1

46200000

47

5120

64 qam

3

2

53699981

51

5120

64 qam

2

3

39400024

51

5120

64 qam

4

4

32600000

51

5120

64 qam

5




Upstream bonded channels

Channel

Channel Type

T1 Timeouts

T2 Timeouts

T3 Timeouts

T4 Timeouts

1

ATDMA

0

0

13

0

2

ATDMA

0

0

5

0

3

ATDMA

0

0

2

0

4

ATDMA

0

0

34

0

 

ime Priority Description

09/11/2021 19:42:39criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:39criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:37Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:14criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:12criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:12Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:8criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:41:8criticalRanging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:40:45criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:40:45Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:40:25criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:39:57criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:38:52Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:38:44noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:38:31criticalUnicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:38:31criticalRanging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:37:47criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:37:25Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:37:25criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/11/2021 19:36:54criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

Sorry, realised clicking "Helpful Answer" marked as solved - which it isn't - so removed again now >_<

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/1e6e38740c94b84d7dd91091241fdc310e... 

 

Re-did the monitoring link, the 2nd one down looked like HTML embed...

jbrennand
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Very Insightful Person
Looks bad - I will ask VM to come here and comment

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.