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Intermittent "SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;" - how to get engineer to come?

gharkness
Tuning in

This community is really useful - thanks all.

I've got the same issue that many have reported previously where internet connectivity drops out intermittently, with network logs like this:

14/02/2022 15:13:6Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 15:12:58criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

 

I can provide other data if that helps but, from reading other posts here, it feels like I need to get an engineer to come.

Unfortunately, I can't even get through to speak to a real person in Customer Services.  The automated systems just seem to test my connectivity - which is 99/100 _working_ - and they then direct me towards instructions for fixing my internal network, which is categorically not faulty 🙂

Any ideas how I can navigate VM Customer Services?

 

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I wouldn't worry about the BQM - the network log shows that the connection is hugely intermittent, and although power levels and SNR were OK when you took the data, the downstream post-RS (uncorrectable) error counts are huge.  I've flagged for forum staff to advise - unless there's an area fault already being worked on you will need a technician visit, and they can book that for you.

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g0akc
Problem sorter

set up a BQM and post the hub status in full here - it will provide more evidence

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I know a bit about Wi-Fi, Telecoms, and TV as I used to do it for a living but I'm not perfect so don't beat me up... If you make things you make mistakes!

Thanks, I created a BQM here.

 

Thanks, I created a BQM here.

gharkness
Tuning in

Here are the logs:

Item Status Comments

Acquired Downstream Channel (Hz)
291000000
Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel (Hz)
53699991
Locked
Provisioning State
Online

 

Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

12910000001.438256 qam20
2139000000338256 qam1
31470000002.938256 qam2
41550000002.738256 qam3
51630000002.538256 qam4
61710000002.238256 qam5
71790000001.938256 qam6
81870000001.938256 qam7
91950000001.738256 qam8
102030000001.438256 qam9
11211000000138256 qam10
122190000000.738256 qam11
132270000000.537256 qam12
142350000000.237256 qam13
15243000000037256 qam14
16251000000-0.237256 qam15
17259000000-0.437256 qam16
18267000000037256 qam17
192750000000.438256 qam18
20283000000138256 qam19
212990000001.738256 qam21
223070000001.738256 qam22
233150000001.538256 qam23
243230000001.538256 qam24



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked38.91411938879
2Locked38.6101706252
3Locked38.6249558045
4Locked38.66665810016
5Locked38.9765939363
6Locked38.6486317627
7Locked38.6300166695
8Locked38.6312246437
9Locked38.6428147173
10Locked38.6537787814
11Locked38.6489606824
12Locked38.6501676536
13Locked37.61394727450
14Locked37.63104068793
15Locked37.63997989134
16Locked37.61884998260
17Locked37.6773086599
18Locked37.3589096027
19Locked38.61092647037
20Locked38.62097158288
21Locked38.9532737607
22Locked38.9189586072
23Locked38.6304526211
24Locked38.6106166

8617

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

15369999145512064 qam2
23260000243512064 qam5
33940000943.5512064 qam4
44620000443.5512064 qam3



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0000
2ATDMA0010
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000

 

General Configuration

Network access
Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
Enabled
DOCSIS Mode
Docsis30
Config file
A,.iyewrkldJKDHSUBsgvca69



Primary Downstream Service Flow

SFID354
Max Traffic Rate690000278
Max Traffic Burst42600
Min Traffic Rate0



Primary Upstream Service Flow

SFID353
Max Traffic Rate44000278
Max Traffic Burst42600
Min Traffic Rate0
Max Concatenated Burst42600
Scheduling TypeBestEffort

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description

14/02/2022 15:13:6Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 15:12:58criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 15:12:19Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:54:9noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:48:23Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:48:16criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:46:43Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:43:49criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:43:45Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:43:38criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:41:51Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:41:51criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:34:8Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:34:8criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:33:59Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:33:59criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:12:46Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:12:46criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:12:26Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/02/2022 14:12:26criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

 

Hmmm - the BQM shows that it's down constantly - which isn't true.

I wonder if my router (behind the Virgin Hub in modem mode) is configured not responding to pings?

Here's a graph of outgoing pings for the last three hours:

Screenshot 2022-02-14 at 16.48.50.png

Five periods where pings got longer, and two complete dropouts.  The times correlate with records in the modem's network log.

 

And filling in some more dropouts as the day has gone on 😞

Green is ping time - red is where there has been 10 consecutive packets lost.

Screenshot 2022-02-14 at 23.08.55.png