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adhawkins
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IPV6 support

Hi,

Apart from an announcement in 2016 that Virgin Media would roll out IPV6 across their nextwork by 'the middle of next year' (i.e. 2017) all appears to have gone quiet.

Is there any update on when Virgin Media will be rolling out true IPV6 support across their network and to customers?

Thanks

Andy

 

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legacy1
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Re: IPV6 support

It will likely be delayed IPv6 is a big deal and the way its done will be liked or hated.

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VMCopperUser
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There would have been leaks if it was happening any time soon.

They said a few months ago they were looking to start rolling it out by the end of this year, but they are also stating they want it only on new hardware.  Seeing how there is likely still Docsis2 equipment on the network (upgrade teams rarely get customers to get new hardware) then we might still be 10 years away.

Unless they see some strain put on them (customers walking due to IPv6, or huge network overheads due to broker usage) then don't expect for them to push it out.

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I Do not agree that IPv6 is a big deal. all the routing and switching HW as far as at least 10 years ago is running dual stack (IPv4 (legacy) and IPv6). All the logistic of issuing and managing IPv6 address space has been in place for very long time.

The necessary knowledge to plan IPv6 network/address plan could be gained by reading a good book on the subject in three days. That is if we are talking about network specialist not a 'script readers' from unknown country.

So I do not rally know what could be a reason for delay.

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Tudor
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Just thinking about the problems with customer services when VM go IP6 gives me a headache!


There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't and F people out of 10 who do not understand hexadecimal
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Re: IPV6 support


wrote:

I Do not agree that IPv6 is a big deal. all the routing and switching HW as far as at least 10 years ago is running dual stack (IPv4 (legacy) and IPv6). All the logistic of issuing and managing IPv6 address space has been in place for very long time

The big deal is how we still get IPv4 with IPv6 that some may not like how we are to get it like.

 

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Anyone who just read a book for 3 days would never be able to successfully and securely implement IPv6 on a SP-class network.  If they did, I'd not want to use the network.  I am saying this as a network design architect for a competitor of VM.

It would need to be understood, practiced and tested thoroughly over the course of a number of months before I would even consider deploying it.

In addition to that, not ALL hardware over the last 10 years runs dual-stack or is even capable of it.  There could be any number of reasons why it isn't deployed yet because of hardware, software, licensing, etc.

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To be fair, BT have rolled it out successfully, in fact, I'm using it at the moment on an FTTC connection - it just seems that Virgin don't really care, and won't do until there are IPV6 only services - but that's too late to be doing it.

I'm about to get Virgin connected and will be having to use a Hurricane Electric IPV6 tunnel for the time being.

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tw99
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There's some information here about how it appears VM will be doing their IPv6 migration.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2018/02/update-virgin-medias-uk-ipv6-docsis-3-1-plans.html

DS-lite isn't great for a couple of reasons: You probably end up with a non-routable IPv4 address, plus support for DS-lite in 3rd party routers is patchy. I don't really want to have to take my hub out of modem mode...
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adhawkins
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Oh dear, that doesn't sound good.

If I lose a publicly routable IPV4 address I'll be leaving VM immediately.

Andy