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Hub 5, modem mode, signal drops

albatross99
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Hello all

Over the last few months, Wi-Fi signal drops have been happening intermittently all day, every day. It seems to effect every device in the house. 

the Hub connects to a netgear router then onto various wired connections and a Tenda Mesh system.  The live graph has been up and running since last time so I paste that here in case anyone can suggest what cause might be. 


Have reset the system and each part but hasn’t helped. 

thanks in advance 

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/a1290607b2ebbc11e0dd7fb25a492d155b...

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Client62
Alessandro Volta

With a VM Hub in modem mode the BQM graph plots the responses from the Netgear Router ( not the VM Hub ).

Wi-Fi is not being provided by the VM Hub, so pay close attention to the functioning of the Tenda Mesh, exactly what happens when the Wi-Fi drops out ? E.g. is that the Mesh is dropping the Wi-Fi signal to change channels ?

Hub Signal Level Checks

Via http://192.168.0.1/ connect to the Hub in Router mode, do not login in, scroll down to "Check router status"     Use http://192.168.100.1/ for a Hub in Modem mode

Using the Hub's "Check router status" tabs check the Downstream and Upstream power levels are in spec.

( If already logged in to the Hub menu, the same info is available at : Advanced settings >>> Tools >>> Network status )

Downstream Power Levels of -7 to +7 dBmV are preferred, +10dBmV is the max acceptable, with a SNR of 33dB or higher across all DOCSIS 3.0 channels. Rising error counts across many channels is a current service noise fault.

Upstream
Power Levels of 35 to 49 dBmV are preferred, with QAM 64 Modulation mode across all four to six DOCSIS 3.0 channels.  Seeing QAM 32/16/QPSK is a current service noise fault.  Seeing less than four DOCSIS 3.0 channels is usually a signal level fault.



legacy1
Alessandro Volta

Problem might be your wifi BQM looks ok to your router

set wifi to use channel 13 on 2.4GHz and 52 on 5GHz

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Thank you. Forgive my ignorance - would this setting change need to be on the net gear router or the Tenda mesh? 

Thank you. I will try this tomorrow and let you know how I get on. 

Have gone to Tenda Mesh Wi-Fi settings - I can make the 2.4GHZ 13 but on 5ghz I don’t have option of 52, I only have 36, 40, 44, 48, 149, 153, 157, 161, 165

which should be best? And will changing these mean devices need to reconnect to the mesh? Thanks. 

 

jbrennand
Very Insightful Person
Very Insightful Person

Re 2.4 GHz wifi channels - see this..

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Getting-a-better-Wireless-Network-Signal/td...

 


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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & TNT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi), Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Gareth_L
Forum Team
Forum Team

Hello albatross99.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I have just ran a test on the hub from here and can see we have 1 channel issue on your downstream levels.

Also 3 channels on the upstream levels are out of the required range.

It would need one of our technicians out to adjust these, which I can arrange.

If you don't mind, I will need to send you a private message to pass security. 
If you can check the Logo top right of your screen that would be great. 
Regards     
Gareth_L
 

Hello albatross99

Thanks for taking the time to pass security. 

I did take a look at a few things and discovered we have an SNR issue in your area
You may find the services are intermittent right now and we are aware of a fault in the area
This fault is logged under reference number F011040819 and is due to be fixed on the 23/11/2023. It kind of ties up with the date of your post as this was first raised on the 31/10/2023
You can pop back on here and ask for an update if you wish. Just quote the reference number above
Gareth_L

Hello. 
unfortunately nothing seems to have changed since end of November. Signal seems to drop constantly. Ref number above to quote was F011040819

Please can I have further update? Or should I be going through other steps to solve the constant dropouts?

do I need to switch to having split 2.4 / 5Ghz signals and go through hassle of changing WiFi passwords for every device in the house? 
thanks