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Hub 3 keeps rebooting

Agk2083
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I have had a hub 3 for a couple of years now but the last few weeks it has taken to resetting itself. Here are the details I can think of. I have made no changes or done anything to cause the issue.

  • I have a Hub 3 In Modem mode. It has always been in modem mode since being with Virgin and and I have not changed any part of my kit.
  • It resets at no set intervals. Sometimes it can be hours or go all day without resetting. Other times it resets every few minutes. 
  • I have 200mb/seconds and when connected I get these speeds.
  • I have called virgin and they have run tests and say nothing is wrong with their service and it is my setup. I don’t see how this can be because it has worked for years until the last few weeks. 

Can someone please help me? It is incredibly frustrating and no one at Virgin seems to care. 

 

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jbrennand
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Hubs have different wording.

Check something like..

• Navigate to routers web interface
• Advanced Settings > Advanced > Ping > Respond to ICMP echo requests sent to WAN IP

Also double check that you have your correct ip address in the BQM's settings

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

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jbrennand
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Lets see the connection details - can you do this...
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In your browser’s URL box type in http://192.168.0.1 (or http://192.168.100.1 - if in modem mode) (DONT click these links) - and hit return. On the first page up dont login just click on the “router status” icon/text at bottom-middle (Hub3/4) of the Login page and then Navigate to these “pages” and just copy/paste the normal “Formatted Text” (not images) 3 FULL sets of data onto here – 2 tables from the Downstream, 2 from the Upstream, & the Network Logs page. Don't worry too much about the formatting it can be easily read & DON’T include personal data or MAC addresses - blank them out - if you copy/paste the data, the board software will do this for you (you may need to click the "submit" button again. If character limits are “exceeded” - just do two posts

If you haven’t already, set up a free, secure and “offlsite” - “Broadband Quality Monitor” to continually monitor the state of your connection and record any true network dropouts , latency issues, packet drops, etc - it will thus allow you to differentiate between those and simple wifi dropouts. It does it 24/7/365 and it keeps a visual record of any/all of your network disconnections, useful data to have to match to the Network logs (in your Hub settings) and also in discussions with VM - note it will take a few hours to start seeing a sensible picture - post up the “link” to the “share live graph”. Click the lower link (Share Live Graph) then click generate. Copy the text in the Direct Link box, beware, there may be more text than you can see. On here click the Link icon (2 links chain to the left of the camera icon) In the URL box paste the link you copied and then click OK

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Hi John,

Thanks for your help. I have joined think broadband as you suggested and here are the details when I check my router status. 

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

12030000005.340256 qam9
22110000005.140256 qam10
32190000004.540256 qam11
42270000003.738256 qam12
52350000003.240256 qam13
62430000003.740256 qam14
72510000003.940256 qam15
8259000000440256 qam16
92670000004.140256 qam17
10275000000440256 qam18
112830000004.440256 qam19
122910000004.440256 qam20
132990000004.440256 qam21
143070000004.440256 qam22
153150000004.340256 qam23
163230000004.140256 qam24
17331000000440256 qam25
18339000000440256 qam26
193470000003.740256 qam27
203550000003.740256 qam28
213630000003.240256 qam29
22371000000338256 qam30
233790000002.438256 qam31
24387000000240256 qam32



Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

1Locked40.3289637142248
2Locked40.3281073120689
3Locked40.3276728117455
4Locked38.9279357133894
5Locked40.3277990120478
6Locked40.926132288030
7Locked40.924947071905
8Locked40.323997462328
9Locked40.922943956283
10Locked40.322808654942
11Locked40.921205542949
12Locked40.320156436083
13Locked40.319098831958
14Locked40.317860027880
15Locked40.317473927894
16Locked40.316983327009
17Locked40.315305421698
18Locked40.314094218118
19Locked40.313767617529
20Locked40.313678816203
21Locked40.312960415693
22Locked38.912318214231
23Locked38.911309113662
24Locked40.310424911933

 

Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

13940000047.5512064 qam4
24620000048.3512064 qam3
32580000046.3512064 qam6
43260000047512064 qam5



Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1ATDMA0020
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0010
4ATDMA0020

 

 

Network Log

Time Priority Description

22/06/2022 14:23:9noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:28:55criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:07:32Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:06:59criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:06:46Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:06:26criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:01:49Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 11:01:49criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 09:36:18Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 08:49:45criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 08:49:27Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 08:49:10criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:55:15Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:42:42criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:42:36Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:19:20criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:17:36criticalReceived Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:11:21Warning!RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:09:35criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
22/06/2022 07:08:7criticalSYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

jbrennand
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Power levels all look OK -0 but it looks like its not been cleared for a while (too many RS errors) can you do this...
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Switch the Hub off and unplug it from the mains supply for five minutes. Whilst it's off, do a quick check that all of your coax and ethernet cable connections are in nice and "finger" tight - at the Hub and wall box and also at any connectors etc. Ensure there are no “unterminated cable loose ends. Disconnect all the connections and reconnect to be sure. Also check that the internal wiring is ok with no kinking or chaffing, check that all looks good with the outside cabling and wall box (no “staples, etc.,) piercing the cables. Then switch the Hub back on and leave ~5 minutes

When all done, check back in the settings and ensure that the RS error counts and T3 errors have all reset to 0. Then check every hour or so to see if they start reappearing - they shouldn't. If they do (particularly the postRS and T3 ones) you have a problem (noise) that only a Tech visit will sort.

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks John. I did as requested by turning it off for 5 minutes an checked the cables but it didn't work. Here is my monitor too. I guess red is bad 

Agk2083_0-1655965390564.png

 

 

Tudor
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No red means you have no connection, which is not the case. You need to go into the settings of the hub and turn on Accept ICMP messages. This is what TB uses.


Tudor
There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't and F people out of 10 who do not understand hexadecimal c1a2a285948293859940d9a49385a2

Thanks Tudor. I have gone into the hub settings and looked through the menus and can’t find reference to ICMP messages to accept them. Could you provide some direction here? 

jbrennand
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Hubs have different wording.

Check something like..

• Navigate to routers web interface
• Advanced Settings > Advanced > Ping > Respond to ICMP echo requests sent to WAN IP

Also double check that you have your correct ip address in the BQM's settings

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Resolved 

Thanks everyone for your help in understanding what what happening. 

It took 14 phone calls to Virgin for them to finally send an engineer and the cause was corroded wiring to my house. The engineer was great and fixed everything quickly and no more dropouts. 

Sad that it took 14 calls to get someone out though.