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AntonySarah1603
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Virgin said my IP address is dynamic and it will change every 16-20 days so long as box is downpowered for a good few hours. Told that our next change would be 26.9.19. 

Turned box off overnight on that date. IP address was  stil the same? 

My son is a gamer and says our IP never changes so cannot be a dynamic one. Please help a mum who has no idea about any of this!!!! 

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Ernie_C
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... and why do you want a different IP address?

Has your child had your IP address banned from a site or let someone know it and getting DDOS attacks, perhaps?

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the virgin helpline told you nonsense.
the IP *can* change, but in reality it is unlikely to change. and there is certainly no sheduled date for any such date. that's just plain lies.

so yes, it *could* change, but is unlikely to change. i've had the same IP since i signed up around 1 year ago.

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Ernie_C
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There is no reason for your IP address to need to change.

My ‘dynamic’ address has been the same for years.

You have either been misinformed or misunderstood.

Leave your hub on all the time and stop worrying.

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it is a thing, but in reality they tend not to change regularly, and don't need to change.

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Adduxi
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My BT IP would change now and again, but my VM one never changes unless VM are doing infrastructure changes, and that’s very rare.

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legacy1
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VM without saying WAN or LAN IP can get away with saying your IP changes by meaning LAN IP when you turn off and on the hub see how much trouble router mode is....

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The original post contains absolute piffle.  I've been switching my hub off at night since I got it, with no problems or WAN IP address changes.   If it were the case, I would have a different WAN (Wide Area Network) IP address every day.   However, it did change a few years ago to the one I have now.

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Hello

You will only get a different IP address if the one you had before has been taken by a new device, when requesting an address the system send a hardware ID to the server that handles the request and as long as the old IP has not been taken you will get the same one. There is no way of changing the way it works.

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VMCopperUser
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In a Static IP network the IP never changes.

In a Dynamic IP network (Like Virgin Media) you will get an IP for a set amount of time.

Virgin issue your device with an IP that last for 7 days.

Your Device (Superhub, Hub3, or Router) gets that IP and then after having it for half the time, it will ask Virgin if it is allowed to have the IP again for the same length of time.

So, First time you get an IP your router has it for 7 days, 3.5 days later it says "Can I keep it", Virgin network says Sure, and now it's good for 7 more days.  It will repeat this forever.

So.  Assuming you know exactly when your router last asked for that update, we call it a DHCP Renew, then you will be able to turn the device off when it has more than 3.5 days left, leave it turned off for about 4 days, and the IP will then no longer be reserved.

I hear you ask, Does that mean the IP is lost?  The answer is, Only if someone else takes it.

Assuming that once your lease expired, after 7 days from originally being handed out, VM needed to hand a IP to a new device on the network, and yours was the one that had been removed the longest.  It would give the new people your IP.  So it's possible that you could disconnect your service for weeks, or even months, and still get the same IP when you restart your kit.

Now.  As for as your kid goes.

Tell him that it's easy to get someone else's IP, so simply by going online someone can find it.  It's also difficult and illegal for people to hack and steal from him so they probably aren't doing it and he shouldn't worry.

You can change your IP with different equipment, but honestly you should just tell your kid that's life.  Once we get IPv6 then the block assignments we get will probably be Static, so he should best get used to it now.  Also, some services like XBox create a outbound tunnel, so quite a bit of what you do doesn't directly point to your IP.

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chenks
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who told you that nonsense?
all virgin residential public IPs are dynamic (ie not static), however unless you turn the hub off and leave it off or some considerable time the IP is unlikely to change.

ps. you shouldn't turn your hub off at night. it's designed and intended to stay on 24/7

Ernie_C
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... and why do you want a different IP address?

Has your child had your IP address banned from a site or let someone know it and getting DDOS attacks, perhaps?

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The virgin helpline told me that my IP changes!!!!!!! They said it has last changed early September and was due to change again on the 26th so I should switch off for a few hours??? And I quote "it changes every 16-21 days"

My son games and says it should change regularly (please bear in mind he is young) and worries about people accessing it. This is why I rang virgin. So now I am just even more confused. With it being a dynamic and not static doesn't that surely indicate it should change????  

He is young and therefore could be any one of those things! I don't even know what DDOS attacks are 😐

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the virgin helpline told you nonsense.
the IP *can* change, but in reality it is unlikely to change. and there is certainly no sheduled date for any such date. that's just plain lies.

so yes, it *could* change, but is unlikely to change. i've had the same IP since i signed up around 1 year ago.

Ernie_C
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There is no reason for your IP address to need to change.

My ‘dynamic’ address has been the same for years.

You have either been misinformed or misunderstood.

Leave your hub on all the time and stop worrying.

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That makes more sense, thank you.

do any of the internet providers have IPs that change regularly or is this not a thing? 

😊 thanks for your help 

it is a thing, but in reality they tend not to change regularly, and don't need to change.

Adduxi
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My BT IP would change now and again, but my VM one never changes unless VM are doing infrastructure changes, and that’s very rare.

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