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Daily disconnection and minor packet loss

RSI
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Hello

I feel like this will be a long term issue so making a post here.

Background  - I've joined VM just over 2 months ago and was given a Hub 4. I've had no Issues at all until the planned maintenace in my area(16th and 18th Aug).

Since then I've had approximately 2 daily full on disconnections (a hub restart to fix). First one usually happens at 9:30, and second one around 16:00 during work days. This is especially annoying as me and my partner had multiple meetings interrupted because of it.

On top of the disconnections, I have been noticing minor packetloss during my gameplays and managed to catch them on pingplotter, as well as ThinkBroadband. Note the minor packet loss on top of the graph (https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/fc5e009c05aa70cce0886bb313503987af...)

I have hub 4 connected to ASUS router, and my PC is connected via ethernet and all other devices are connected via WIFI. When disconnection happens, all of them will drop out, including my phone which I manually connect to the VM Hub to ensure that its not the ASUS routers problem. 

I've called the customer helpline twice but all they offered was to restart the hub and as my internet connection was considered "connected" they couldn't offer any more help.

I've also called 0800 561 0061 just now to check for local area fault, and there aren't any.

Please shed some light on this situation, and please let me know if any logs needs to be uploaded for further diagnostics.

 

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jbrennand
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BQM not great but no evidence on there of network disconnections - posting the logs would normally be useful but some are reporting a firmware bug that means the Hub4 logs arent getting populated - are there recent entries in your logs - if so post them up.

There have been a few threads recently where poor connections have been down to connection of 3d party routers/switches/etc.

see message 21....

https://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Internet-connection-dropping/td-p/4781287/p...

Have you tried just running the Hub in router mode with no connection to other equipment and see if that stabilises for the period of the "experiment".

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John
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I do not work for VM. My services: HD TV on VIP (+ Sky Sports & Movies & BT sport), x3 V6 boxes (1 wired, 2 on WiFi) Hub5 in modem mode with Apple Airport Extreme Router +2 Airport Express's & TP-Link Archer C64 WAP. On Volt 350Mbps, Talk Anytime Phone, x2 Mobile SIM only iPhones.

Thanks for the reply

The last known disconnection was yesterday morning 29/08. I've started the BQM from 4pm onwards and not had a full-on disconnect since then. Ping plotter is showing minor but consistent packet loss still

As for your proposed experiment. I will unplug my router from the VM Hub tonight see if anything changes by tomorrow morning

I think there are some logs so here they are

3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID

2533100000010.140.4QAM25625
113900000012.440.9QAM2561
214700000012.440.4QAM2562
315500000012.240.4QAM2563
416300000012.140.4QAM2564
517100000011.739QAM2565
617900000011.740.9QAM2566
718700000011.440.4QAM2567
819500000011.640.9QAM2568
920300000011.440.4QAM2569
1021100000011.140.4QAM25610
1121900000010.840.4QAM25611
1222700000010.840.4QAM25612
132350000001040.4QAM25613
142430000009.740.4QAM25614
152510000009.639QAM25615
162590000009.840.4QAM25616
172670000009.140.4QAM25617
1827500000010.740.4QAM25618
1928300000010.540.4QAM25619
202910000001140.4QAM25620
212990000001040.4QAM25621
2230700000010.140.4QAM25622
233150000009.740.9QAM25623
2432300000010.240.4QAM25624
2633900000010.540.4QAM25626
2734700000010.440.4QAM25627
2835500000010.240.9QAM25628
293630000009.540.4QAM25629
303710000009.740.9QAM25630
3137900000010.140.4QAM25631



 

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3.0 Downstream channels

Channel Lock Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors

25Locked40.36628700
1Locked40.94620900
2Locked40.36628700
3Locked40.36628700
4Locked40.36628700
5Locked38.98326100
6Locked40.94620900
7Locked40.36628700
8Locked40.94620900
9Locked40.36628700
10Locked40.36628700
11Locked40.36628700
12Locked40.36628700
13Locked40.36628700
14Locked40.36628700
15Locked38.98326100
16Locked40.36628700
17Locked40.36628700
18Locked40.36628700
19Locked40.36628700
20Locked40.36628700
21Locked40.36628700
22Locked40.36628700
23Locked40.94620900
24Locked40.36628700
26Locked40.36628700
27Locked40.36628700
28Locked40.94620900
29Locked40.36628700
30Locked40.94620900
31Locked40.36628700



3.1 Downstream channelsChannel Channel Width (MHz) FFT Type Number of Active Subcarriers Modulation (Active Profile) First Active Subcarrier (Hz)
33964K1880QAM4096759


3.1 Downstream channelsChannel ID Lock Status RxMER Data (dB) PLC Power (dBmV) Correcteds (Active Profile) Uncorrectables (Active Profile)
33Locked425.8225686160

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3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID

13940000040.55120 KSym/sec64QAM6
24620000040.55120 KSym/sec64QAM5
33260000041.85120 KSym/sec64QAM7
42580000042.35120 KSym/sec16QAM8



3.0 Upstream channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts

1US_TYPE_STDMA0060
2US_TYPE_STDMA0000
3US_TYPE_STDMA0000
4US_TYPE_STDMA0010

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Network Log Time Priority Description
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:015Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:013SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:015Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:033SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:083No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:113SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:155Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:163SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:175Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:203SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:336CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 3.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:343SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:346CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 2; Chan ID: 4; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:373SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:376CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 4; Chan ID: 22; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:375Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:416CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 2.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:44:593SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:45:016CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 2.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:45:023SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 17:45:076CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 1.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 19:06:493No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Fri 27/08/2021 19:30:236CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 1.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 01:53:303No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 05:52:553SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 05:53:005Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 05:53:066CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 1.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 16:29:085MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat 28/08/2021 17:16:373No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:09:503SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:09:545Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:09:553No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:016CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 22; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:213SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:263No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:266CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 20; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:363SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:415Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:10:476CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 23; Chan ID: 33; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:33:313SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:33:326CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 21; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:34:423SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:34:475Lost MDD Timeout;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:34:473No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:34:496CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 23; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun 29/08/2021 07:34:503No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

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Just had some really bad packetloss as reflected on pingplotter, however not showing as full-on disconnection on BQM

StevenDs
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Hi, you can change your router’s WiFi channel especially if your network tends to overlap with nearby networks. Restart your computer, mobile device or router to help reset the network settings and then try connecting to WiFi again. Check for any pending updates on your computer and install them. Remove and re-add the wireless network.

Hi

Thanks for your reply

All of this is done via Ethernet so wifi signal is not a factor here.

In addition, I've done more than 10 resets on everything in the last 5 days. Theres something else going on here

RSI
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Disconnected the ASUS router for the night and it didn't seem to help

Also, full disconnects captured here

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality/share/bcdb0c299c0aca558f3de26d72fc6096912287c8-31-08-2021