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Very high latency and packet bursts

ackblom
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Hi

Recently my latency has been getting gradually worse and my connection is now completely unusable for gaming. My PC is wired directly into the router and Hub3 is running in a modem mode. 

I have a BQM running and things are not looking great.

Logs:

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Downstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
13307500006.140256 qam25
22507500006.340256 qam15
32587500006.540256 qam16
42667500006.440256 qam17
52747500006.440256 qam18
62827500006.340256 qam19
7290750000640256 qam20
8298750000640256 qam21
93067500005.940256 qam22
10314750000640256 qam23
11322750000640256 qam24
123387500006.140256 qam26
13346750000640256 qam27
14354750000640256 qam28
153627500005.940256 qam29
163707500005.840256 qam30
173787500005.840256 qam31
183867500005.540256 qam32
193947500005.540256 qam33
204027500005.440256 qam34
214107500005.340256 qam35
22418750000540256 qam36
23522750000440256 qam37
24530750000440256 qam38


Downstream bonded channels

Channel Locked Status RxMER (dB) Pre RS Errors Post RS Errors
1Locked40.350
2Locked40.950
3Locked40.350
4Locked40.340
5Locked40.970
6Locked40.340
7Locked40.960
8Locked40.350
9Locked40.360
10Locked40.340
11Locked40.360
12Locked40.960
13Locked40.360
14Locked40.950
15Locked40.950
16Locked40.360
17Locked40.380
18Locked40.360
19Locked40.320
20Locked40.950
21Locked40.350
22Locked40.300
23Locked40.950
24Locked40.300
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Upstream bonded channels

Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
15370006845.3512064 qam2
23939999145.3512064 qam4
34619996645.3512064 qam3
46030007045.3512064 qam1


Upstream bonded channels

Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1ATDMA0010
2ATDMA0000
3ATDMA0000
4ATDMA0000
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Network Log

Time Priority Description
16/12/2021 08:29:46noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/12/2021 08:29:29Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/12/2021 08:28:37noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
16/12/2021 08:28:15Warning!LAN login FAILED : Incorrect Username / Password / ConnectionType;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
14/12/2021 10:49:45criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
13/12/2021 08:21:50noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
13/12/2021 08:21:50ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
11/12/2021 10:42:37criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/12/2021 20:21:50noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/12/2021 20:21:50ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
09/12/2021 11:43:50noticeLAN login Success;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
06/12/2021 16:20:10criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
06/12/2021 08:21:50noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
06/12/2021 08:21:50ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/12/2021 10:19:16criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/12/2021 03:44:18noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
03/12/2021 03:44:18ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/11/2021 09:13:33criticalNo Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/11/2021 07:29:18noticeDHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-cmreg-vmdg505-bbt062-b.cm modified;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
30/11/2021 07:29:18ErrorDHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CMTS-MAC=**:**:**:**:**:**;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;

It's definitely not my setup because I had no issues prior to moving to Virgin about 6 months ago.

Could really do with some help please. If there's any more info required please let me know.

24 REPLIES 24

Andrew-G
Alessandro Volta

I think you are able to un-mark a post as a helpful answer, which will remove the "solved" flag.  In practice the staff know that the solved indicator means nothing, but nobody will take offence if you remove a helpful answer status. 

A Hub 4 might help if this is congestion on the downstream because of the better use it makes of available radio spectrum, if the problem is upstream then it won't because all recent VM hubs use a similar upstream configuration.  Regarding the Puma chipset problems, they were fixed a couple of years back, and had no bearing on over-utilisation faults anyway.  I'm afraid the last thing you need is the Hub 5, which is nowhere near ready for prime time.  Scan the forums to see the posts relating to Hub 5 problems, Broadcom or not, that won't make any difference for you. 

I'm afraid that if VM maintain there's no fault, then your only option is to leave, following my previous advice about complaint and escalation to CISAS if you're in a fixed term contract and VM are saying you'll have to pay an early exit fee.  In that case, take screen prints of a good sample of BQM traces to show that there is a problem, and that VM's have failed to fix it when it has been drawn to their attention.  You may need the screen shots as evidence if you submit a complaint to CISAS.  

Hi @ackblom sorry to hear you are still having issues.

We have looked on our systems and we are not seeing any major utilisation for the area. We are also not picking up any further issues, however we are limited as your hub is currently in Modem mode. 

We sadly cannot offer you a hub 5 at the moment, as it is still in its trial phases. 

I would recommend that we book a technician to attend and look into these issues for you further. I will send you a PM to confirm the details we need to book the appointment - it will show in your inbox in the top right of the page. I will update the thread again once a technician is booked. 
All the best. 

Molly

Hi @ackblom, thank you for PM'ing with me to confirm the details we needed!

I have now booked the first available appointment – you can check the date and time via your online account here. If you have any issues with accessing your online account or unable to see your visit, please do let us know and we’ll pop you a message to confirm.

There will be no charge for this visit unless:
•    The technician diagnoses the faults as not being caused by our network/equipment 
•    The technician discovers that the fault or problem relates to your equipment
•    The technician discovers that the fault or problem relates to any system that we are not responsible for
The technician will confirm during their visit if any of these instances apply, and if so, a £25 charge will be applied to your account. 
Please ensure there is someone over the age of 18 present at the time of the visit. If you need to change or cancel your appointment you can do this online or via the MyVM app by 4pm the day before the appointment.
If you do miss an agreed appointment for any reason, a £25 missed appointment charge will be applied to your account on the day of the appointment.

If you can respond to the thread following the appointment so we can see how it went. Hope it all goes well! Let us know if there is anything else we can do to help.

All the best. 

 

Molly

Hi Molly,

Thank you for booking in the appointment for me. The irony of the fact that Virgin technician is going to call round between 8am - 1pm, when my connection seems to behave, is not lost on me but let's see what they find. By the way, I checked the app and there's no way of rescheduling that appointment online but might as well let it go ahead although I'm going to dispute any potential charges.

I have to admit that even the remote possibility of getting charged for this visit seems outrageous when I look at today's BQM

Also, as @Andrew-G said, Hub4 could probably help too and apparently some subscribers in my area had their Hub3 swapped for Hub4 to help with some of the issues they've been having. If you think it's worth giving this a try then I'm more than happy to have it swapped and can send my Hub3 back.

Andrew-G
Alessandro Volta

Always happy to try and help.  On the subject of the non-fault call out charge mentioned - as there's evidence of the problem in your BQM, I doubt that VM will try it on, but if they do then there's ways of getting the company to change their mind.  Let us know if the problem arises!

Things have gotten a bit worse.

This is what I was getting last night when pinging www.google.co.uk:

Ping statistics for 142.250.187.227:
Packets: Sent = 300, Received = 300, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 231ms, Average = 40ms

Willd definitely keep you posted.

Zak_M
Forum Team (Retired)
Forum Team (Retired)

Thank you for coming back to us @ackblom

 

I have again checked the services & cant see anything to raise suspicion. 

 

The engineer will be able to take a closer look into things and see how we are able to get this resolved. 

 

Kind regards,

Zak_M

Hi Zak,

Thank you for your reply. The fact you cannot see anything that raises suspicion and I've been getting maximum pings of around 230ms when pinging Google is worrying to say the least.

Anyway, just checked my orders and appointments and under the order reference I can see:

ackblom_0-1642002851626.png

Could you please double check whether this has been booked correctly?

Thanks for your response @ackblom,

How is your connection running after the visit from the technician?

Regards,

Steven_L

 

Hi Steven,

Unfortunately, things have not improved. Everything works just fine between midnight and 2pm like it did before.

The engineer confirmed there was nothing wrong with my setup. He did mention some noise on the line but apparently that has been fixed now. Think he said he would log another call for this issue but not entirely sure why or what else can be done.

Cheers,