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cfreeman's avatar
cfreeman
Tuning in
28 days ago

Bad Routing?

Hello, i have had issues in call of duty for years, feeling like i am half a second behind everyone else in the game. Some very rare times it feels fine but its like 1 in 50 games is good. 

I asked ChatGPT to analyse my pingplotter to cloudflare (1.1.1.1) without a VPN and with a VPN to determine if bad routing is a potential issue. ChatGPT said it is definitely bad routing.

 

Im not very familiar with networking but can routing be changed? everything else the internet is fine for what we use it for TV/Phones/IPad's but when gaming its horrendous. Ping is relatively low (around 15-17 when lowest and connected to closest server) but it does seem like i have bad routing and/or congestion. 

My VMHUB5 has lots of T3 timeouts and lots of post/pre RS errors when in router mode, when in modem mode using my NETDUMA R3 it is just Pre RS errors that are on the logs. My power levels was near the limits even with an attenuator but definitely seems better without the attenuator so that has been taken off and power levels just over limit on upstream and downstream.

 

I have posted in these forums numerous times with these issues and nothing ever gets fixed, it didn't bother me for a while because i stopped playing call of duty so wasn't affecting me but now i have started to play again and it is unplayable alot of the time.

 

Please do not reply with some generic answers about restarting router etc. I have tried everything this has been happening for years since 2019 when i first noticed it playing Warzone 1. 

 

Thank you. 

 

  • jpeg1's avatar
    jpeg1
    Alessandro Volta

    There are no settings you can change to modify VM's routing. 

    Your downstream signal levels are out of spec, but that won't be affecting the routing.

  • buchosmambo's avatar
    buchosmambo
    On our wavelength

    Did you find any solution to this? I’m having the same problem. I can literally run into the guy start shooting and he kills me within what looks like one shoot. When I watch killcam he shoots half the mag which never happened on my cam if you know what I mean…it’s like I’m full second behind. 
    I’m also having issues with MS Teams and google meats. Always lag.

    I am using Ethernet cable and had DMZ on then off - nothing helps. I had new HUB 5 installed and things were ok for few months and now back to square one. It’s pathetic 

     

     

     

  • legacy1's avatar
    legacy1
    Alessandro Volta

    Setup BQM

    https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/quality

  • ISPs don’t necessarily route geographically, especially if they don’t actually have a router in every major city along the way. Minneapolis has a major carrier hotel and it’s only two router hops from you, probably why your traffic goes through there. Not much you can do, your traffic is probably already taking as few hops as possible. 

  • I asked ChatGPT to analyse my pingplotter to cloudflare (1.1.1.1) without a VPN and with a VPN to determine if bad routing is a potential issue. ChatGPT said it is definitely bad routing.

    So what is the traceroute with and without a vpn?

    Test to an actual game server. 1.1.1.1 is not a regular host address it's an anycast address.

    Also ChatGPT doesn't "know" anything.

    • cfreeman's avatar
      cfreeman
      Tuning in

      There was 100% packet loss on hop 4, significant packet loss on hop 5, the latency start low 0.5 but increases significantly by hop 3. 

      With VPN on 0% packet loss. Latency is slightly higher but consistent across all hops but im sure that is normal using a VPN.

       

      Also doesn't ChatGPT know a lot?.. 

      "ChatGPT and our other services are developed using (1) information that is publicly available on the internet, (2) information that we partner with third parties to access, and (3) information that our users or human trainers and researchers provide or generate."

       

      ChatGPT isn't just making up random answers surely? 

       

  • carl_pearce's avatar
    carl_pearce
    Community elder

    Are you seeing the same issues in router and modem mode?

    If you have the option to, change the MAC address in your WAN settings on your NETDUMA R3 when in router mode (Remember you'll need to reboot the HUB).

    This will give you a different Public IP, which can affect routing.

    • cfreeman's avatar
      cfreeman
      Tuning in

      I am not too sure but im going to unplug my VMhub and try force a change in IP that way. thank you for your suggestion.

      • cje85's avatar
        cje85
        Trouble shooter

        That won't work. VM IP's are very sticky and you will get the same IP even after a restart. 

        IP's don't really affect routing either as even with a new IP you're still physically connected to the same CMTS at VM's local headend and it will route your traffic in the same way.