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Hi dgcarter,
As always when new products or services become available we will let customers know. At this time we have no plans scheduled in to use ipv6.
- dgcarter15 years agoDialled in
Paul, thanks for the reply. Given that we are (allegedly) due to run out of IPv4 addresses at any time between two weeks last thursday and 2012, how are virgin planning on coping?
- Paul_M15 years agoForum Team (Retired)
Hi dgcarter,
When the time comes for IPv6 roll out we will let everybody know on what will happen. Until then we will be sticking with IPv4 as we have more than enough IP addresses in reserve.By using a router will eliminate most of the issues as this will assign just one ip address per household instead of one for every device connecting to the internet.
Hope this helps
Paul- richardacre15 years agoJoining in
Hi, whilst your statement is correct it is unhelpful. At the moment I have multiple internet facing devices behind my router. Specifically a smartphone, laptop, desktop and Wii. Most of these devices "pull" from the internet but an increasing number of home devices are "push" devices, such as the Slingbox and home CCTV systems. This is an area of growth and smart metering and white goods will be joining the fold soon enough, for example.
In order to use these "push" devices from behind an IPv4 router you have to configure port forwarding and set up and maintain your own DNS records (e.g. via DYNDNS). Something that should be simple: connecting two webcams together so you can see and chat to your distant family requires the use of a third party (i.e. Skype) to connect through, shouldnt it be easier? shouldnt we just be able to connect to each others computers directly? IPv4 and Network address translation prevent this from becomming a reality.
Once IPv6 is suitably advanced the LAN and WAN will become transparent, with a user's laptop mainitaining the same IPv6 address nomatter where it is in the world and whilst this means that the home user will need a decent firewall in place to keep out unwanted hardware it does mean that once they configure their LAN devices to talk to each other they will be able to connect to their Slingbox, turn up their thermostat, watch the CCTV and turn on the lawn sprinklers from anywhere in the world with no extra effort.
In my opinion Virgin would benefit from the positive publicity of true IPv6 adoption, where AAAA DNS records are served if available for a given domain, bearing in mind that windows XP, Vista and 7 all support IPv6 routing. The burden would still be on the home user to use a router that supported IPv6 but at the moment the only barrier to my using it is Virgin's own cable network.
- shire_dweller15 years agoOn our wavelength
While Virgin ignores their customer requests for IPv6, you can switch to ADSL2+ (BT landline) and get the best native IPv6 support in the UK with AAISP, www.AAISP.net.uk . It's been a few years that AAISP provides native IPv6. They also give you a block of static, public IPv4 addresses as standard, no extra charges. "Real Internet", as they call it. NAT is completely optional -- I strongly recommend against NAT, especially if you'd also like to try using SIP VoIP.
(I'm not in any way affiliated with AAISP, other than being one of their happy customers at work, where we get a clean 16Mbps with ADSL2+. At home I still have Virgin Media, but that's only because ADSL gives me at most 3Mbps, while Virgin gives me 10Mbps or more.)
- DJ-Shadow15 years agoSuper solver
Hello
When IPV6 is rolled out accross the whole of the Internet then a lot of the ISP's will roll out IPV6, over a local network I dont really see a need as currently with BT they still have to use a Gateway from IPV6 to IPV4 due to the majority of the infrastructure on the Internet isnt IPV6.
Mike
- shire_dweller15 years agoOn our wavelength
IPv6 is definitely not limited to any local network. IPv6 is "already" (after only 15 years put forward as an Internet standard) in use by 1 to 6% of the global Internet, depending on how you measure it (data traffic, source address of website requests or BGP table advertisements). Check this article:
To name two big services you can right now access natively with IPv6: Google and YouTube. There are thousands more websites that are already IPv6 enabled, all over the world. Just search for them. In the UK, there doesn't seem to be that many ( http://www.ipv6.org.uk , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_deployment ) , but it would change radically if just one big provider like BT or Virgin Media started offering it to residential customers. As for the smaller providers, it's not just AAISP to offer it in the UK, there are a few others too. This search tool allows you to check the UK providers offering IPv6:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/search/package/advanced.html
In the USA, Comcast and Verizon have already started trials of IPv6 with residential customers. They are very large providers. ( http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Begins-Residential-IPv6-FiOS-Test-107761 , http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.phpr/3825696/Comcast+Embraces+IPv6.htm )
Obviously, in the transition period you can use both IPv4 and IPv6 simultaneously, it's not a matter of choosing one over the other.
Personally, what I look forward to gain from IPv6 is to eventually get rid of NAT completely and have plenty of public IP addresses to each household (hundreds, thousands), one for each and every Interned-enabled device, free of charge (many ISPs currently charge for blocks of IPv4 addresses). This would enable so many P2P applications -- not just file sharing, but mainly voice/video communications and all sorts of push/pull notifications -- that currently struggle to become popular because of the costs of getting around NAT. (Most of the big and popular comms services, say Skype, spend a lot of money on centralised server farms just because direct P2P comms are blocked by NAT. Yes, there are ways around NAT, but they are mostly non-standard and often require complex router port forwarding configurations that are beyond most users' comprehension, time or interest.) (Also: there are very many articles on how to achieve the private-network security which comes as a side effect of NAT while using public IPv6 addresses, for instance: http://www.deepdarc.com/2010/02/06/ipv6-security/ )
- Wez20259 years agoDialled in
xbox one console need the support off it , when i go into my settings it states try an ipv6 connection
i think its about time you supported this- Morgaine9 years agoSuperfast
Wez2025 wrote:xbox one console need the support off it , when i go into my settings it states try an ipv6 connection
i think its about time you supported thisWhat you're seeing is the standard behaviour of moden Internet hosts and applications, which is to try IPv6 first. End user machines have been ready for IPv6 for many years, well over a decade in some cases.
It's the residential ISPs that have been dragging their heels, and Virgin is slowest of the Big Three in that respect. It's also the least interested in talking to their customers about it. We've been trying here for over half a decade, to nil effect.
- Morgaine9 years agoSuperfast
As was pointed out here last month, VM's Darryl Tanner is giving another talk at this month's UK IPv6 Council Meeting on 31st October 2016, alongside the other major ISPs. It's not easy to be optimistic given VM's past history on IPv6, but let's hope pressure from Sky and BT Infinity has some effect.
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