Finally today i made the decision after a lengthy conversation to make the switch from sky to virgin. After spending some time on the phone with a salesmen I was convinced to make the switch being offered a free second recording box upstairs as part of the big kahuna bundle. Having now found that this boy is the ancient V+HD box I am incredibly disappointed. This is an old, noisy box, that is being phased out and has been used to pacify me in a sale. I have no interest in a box that is only given to replace other boxes or to try and satisfy new customers.