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Why does V6 need the superhub?

Forgive me for being blonde but why does the v6 need to be connected to the superhub? My old style tivo isn't connected to the superhub and still has epg updates and on-demand content so what is different? Thanks.
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

Unlike the current TiVo the TV V6 box does not have a built in cable modem, hence the need to connect to the broadband hub.
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?


asha_bristol wrote:
I've very limited knowledge of things technical but i thought one of the key selling points of the old tivo box was that it could stream tv without affecting internet performance? Surely if all this extra traffic is on the main internet network won't it all just grind to a halt?

That's why you need 100 meg to use the V6







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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

Unlike the current TiVo the TV V6 box does not have a built in cable modem, hence the need to connect to the broadband hub.
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

Oh, i see. Thanks. Is there any real benefit in connecting two v6 boxes to the hub with cat6 instead of using wi-fi? Distances from the router to both boxes is minimal (4 meters max in differing directions)?
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

The only certain way to determine this is to try it. Ethernet should give a solid connection all the time. WiFi can be subject to external interference from other devices in your or neighbouring properties.
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

As someone who works in IT, my experience suggests that wired is always preferable to WiFi as it is more reliable.

Where possible, I have everything connected wired, e.g. my laptop, Now and Fire TV boxes.

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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

The previous STB: Cisco, Samsung, Pace et al had embedded CableModem[*] (typically with DOCSIS1 connection and upstream bandwidth sufficient for <3 tuners,epg vod and streaming on those boxes).
V6 with additional(concurrent)tuners, 4K and increased streaming/download (TV Anywhere) functionality placed more demands on upstream OOB component and either Cabled(or w/less) connection to SHub (with >70/6 Mbps D3 connectivity) appears to have reduced the potential duplication/cost of requiring D3 CM embedded build.

Note [*]. Originally(circa Docsis1 late 90's and upto 2007 and later) STB CM's (particularly on NTL platform) could also provide basic BB connection albeit limited to 2/5mbps bandwidth. Personally as a limited BB user I didn't upgrade to a SACM (standalone cable modem) till 2008/9.
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

My router/superhub is situated upstairs. My tv+ blu-ray+ hi-fi+ tivo et al., are of course downstairs. There are no more nearby power sockets free which rules out using a link extender (with ethernet port). My one accessible13amp socket connects to a 6 socket anti-surge gang which is already full. Does this rule out the possibility of me ever using the V6 without having to dis-assemble all of my built-in wall furniture in order to run in a 13amp spur. Then dis-assemble my study rig to remove and relocate the SH so that the V6 is capable of working? BTW I would also lose a direct ethernet connection between my computer and SH which is, as you should know, used for internal wi-fi and security settings in the hub. If this is correct it will definitely be time for a new supplier. Somebody tell me that this ain't right : (
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

Distance and interference dependent, it should work on wifi, and there's nothing stopping you obtaining passthrough powerline adaptors which still retain the use of your surge protected extensions.

You'll find Sky will have a similar requirement for their boxes - they have to be able to get an internet connection.

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Loc: ME10
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Re: Why does V6 need the superhub?

I've very limited knowledge of things technical but i thought one of the key selling points of the old tivo box was that it could stream tv without affecting internet performance? Surely if all this extra traffic is on the main internet network won't it all just grind to a halt?
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asha_bristol wrote:
I've very limited knowledge of things technical but i thought one of the key selling points of the old tivo box was that it could stream tv without affecting internet performance? Surely if all this extra traffic is on the main internet network won't it all just grind to a halt?

That's why you need 100 meg to use the V6