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On behalf of 257000 people with no hope.....

.... who live in Hull.  It would be nice to have an explanation as to why Kingston Communications (KC.com) still retains its broadband monopoly in Hull.  I could understand this situation in the past as Hull had its own phone cabling whereas the rest of the country had BT.  Now that broadband providers are digging up streets to instal their own fibre optic cables is it not now possible for such companies to move into Hull.  Perhaps it is because Virgin, for example, would need a 'hub' within Hull and KC are protecting their monopoly?.  I'd love to know, so thanks to anyone who can enlighten me!.

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Re: On behalf of 257000 people with no hope.....

An interesting question.  I doubt that Virgin Media would see cabling the whole of the Hull area as financially viable given that their cables need to be run underground.  The costs of digging up the streets and the infrastructure plant would be huge with no guarantee that those already using KCOM would switch anyway.  The Hull scenario is really quite fascinating having insisted on maintaining their own telecoms infrastructure since 1902.

Just out of interest, what internet speeds do you get from KCOM?

 

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Re: On behalf of 257000 people with no hope.....

hiya @paulpenni yeah virginmedia are rolling out a lot of cabling, looking at -> http://maps.thinkbroadband.com/#!lat=53.678117335993036&lng=-0.49541361279294094&zoom=11&type=terrai... not 100% accurte the cost of laying all the optical cabling from hull to nearest local headend (e.g. where the cabinets converge) would cost a small fortune around £1 per metre, so got to work out the cost of investment to return would take a long time. the same would go for BT.
KC are doing high speed roll out -> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2016/09/kcoms-fttp-broadband-roll-hull-uk-reaches-100000-premis... also your link you posted needs to be https://www.kcomhome.com/

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Re: On behalf of 257000 people with no hope.....

An interesting question.  I doubt that Virgin Media would see cabling the whole of the Hull area as financially viable given that their cables need to be run underground.  The costs of digging up the streets and the infrastructure plant would be huge with no guarantee that those already using KCOM would switch anyway.  The Hull scenario is really quite fascinating having insisted on maintaining their own telecoms infrastructure since 1902.

Just out of interest, what internet speeds do you get from KCOM?

 

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I don't think there is any likelihood of VM expanding north of the Humber. There are large conurbations far closer to the existing VM infrastructure in other parts of the country (North East Kent & the East Sussex coast to name a few) that are not so far being considered. Indeed VM pulled out wholesale from Milton Keynes when they could not reach agreement with BT for upgrading the shared BT infrastructure they were using at the time.

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paultechy wrote:
hiya @paulpenni yeah virginmedia are rolling out a lot of cabling, looking at -> http://maps.thinkbroadband.com/#!lat=53.678117335993036&lng=-0.49541361279294094&zoom=11&type=terrai... not 100% accurte the cost of laying all the optical cabling from hull to nearest local headend (e.g. where the cabinets converge) would cost a small fortune around £1 per metre, so got to work out the cost of investment to return would take a long time. the same would go for BT.
KC are doing high speed roll out -> http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2016/09/kcoms-fttp-broadband-roll-hull-uk-reaches-100000-premis... also your link you posted needs to be https://www.kcomhome.com/


Great maps ... thanks for the links 




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