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Docsis 3.1 deployment and Hub 4 - end of 2017 and 2018

** Disclaimer: This is NOT official news, it is my personal prediction for the coming year **

Follow my train of thought here..

Deployment of Docsis 3.1 will start from the end of this year and continue into 2018 for most Liberty Global cable networks:

“Our plan is to introduce DOCSIS 3.1 at the end of this year, when the first networks are migrated over. We’ll do most of the networks in 2018 and that will come with the first 1 Gigabit services in the majority of our markets.” Colin Buechner, managing director Access Network at Liberty Global told Cable Congress.

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/03/08/liberty-to-begin-docsis-3-1-rollout/

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017/03/20/liberty-global-starts-docsis-3-1-rollout-in-germany/

 

Liberty Global will likely announce the new Docsis 3.1 Hub device at IBC 2017 in September as they did with the Hub 3 (connect box) in 2015:

http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/09/15/liberty-global-to-roll-out-new-connect-box/

We had the Hub 3 in customer trials less than a month after Europe did, so you can work it out from that.

 

My bet for the Hub 4 is on the TG3442S/CE (re-badged for LG) because it fits the spec and pricepoint LG would go for: "The TG3442, a gigabit gateway with whole-home WiFi at an “entry-level price point.” 

https://www.arris.com/globalassets/resources/data-sheets/touchstone-tg3442-data-sheet.pdf

It will likely look like the middle one below (but maybe in a new case, perhaps white if they haven't learned from the Hub 3):

http://www.digitaltveurope.net/603912/arris-expands-docsis-3-1-range/

Unfortunately, we're unlikely to get much of a new higher tier as all the channels haven't been maxed out on the Hub 3 yet.

But LG are rolling out 1Gbit in Europe, so they'll need to launch it end of this year.

Of course VM could be at the start (Sept 2017 onwards) or the end (Sept 2018 onwards) of that roll-out.

So what do you think?

 

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@Ignition maybe you can give us some insider whispers?

 

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Then again I could be misinterpreting the second line of the LG quote, with the new Hub coming in 2018 instead when the Gigabit tier comes in Europe.

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Interview with Balan Nair, Liberty Global CTO:

"DOCSIS 3.1 will really be an ‘edge’ implementation for high-end customers,” he says. “That’s partly because the cost of chips is still significant. We will probably start to mass-market DOCSIS 3.1 in 2018, but we are getting to a point where the limits of WiFI are greater than those of the fixed network. With DOCSIS 3.1 you are putting in more WiFi too, and that combination drives the cost up.”

So only on the new tier, which makes sense.

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You are surely looking at 802.11AD or wi-gig for this modem.   Interestingly, with the 3rd party wireless market starting to mature (Google Wi-Fi, Unifi etc), maybe a Modem only model would be beneficial, especially to those who are more advanced users who will have their own wifi and edge routers / firewalls deployed.

 

 

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markscottuk wrote:

You are surely looking at 802.11AD or wi-gig for this modem.  

There's no point right now having a multi-gigabit wifi solution where the planned future tiers are 500Mb to 750Mb. MU-MIMO ac wifi with 4x4 or 8x8 will do fine.

There are no Docsis 3.1 modems with 802.11ad or wi-gig on the market, as far as I'm aware. According to Arris' roadmap 60Ghz wifi such as 802.11ad would be far in the future for cable telco's. Balan Nair LG CTO has stated they're not looking at 5G at all at the moment, but they may jump on the band-wagon later.

Interestingly, with the 3rd party wireless market starting to mature (Google Wi-Fi, Unifi etc), maybe a Modem only model would be beneficial, especially to those who are more advanced users who will have their own wifi and edge routers / firewalls deployed.

Unfortunately not going to happen, as has been stated many times on here. Although I agree it would be nice.

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I vote for modem only and hope your predictions are true


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MUD_Wizard wrote:

@Ignition maybe you can give us some insider whispers?

 


Indeed I can. What did you want to know?

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tekmobile wrote:
I vote for modem only and hope your predictions are true

I'm afraid that as things stand now you're in for disappointment if you're hoping for a modem rather than a gateway.

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