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Virgin media browsing history request

I'm sure that in the UK by law, ISP's must retain a years worth of browsing history.

I'm wondering if it's possible to requests this information from virgin media.

Any idea's?

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Contact the ICO or read Find out how to request your personal information, and should you decide to make a Subject Access Request clear state the inclusion of browsing history.

Data Protection & Privacy
Virgin Media
Bartley Wood Business Park
Hook
Hampshire
RG27 9UP
[source: http://store.virginmedia.com/the-legal-stuff/privacy-policy.html]

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i will be amazed if you ever get access to that.

 it's kept only for the govt spooks to use when investigating you

otherwise those of us who think it's a stupid law could, if so allowed, overwhelm the system  by all demanding hard copies for all activity over 12 months, via FOI

anyway you have the option to keep browser history for as long as you choose in PC settings, and to make print outs, backup copies, as you see fit

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The gist of the point made maybe a possible outcome but, AFAICS, Virgin Media is not a public authority so the Freedom of Information Act would not apply to them, see What is the Freedom of Information Act?

 

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用心棒 wrote:

The gist of the point made maybe a possible outcome but, AFAICS, Virgin Media is not a public authority so the Freedom of Information Act would not apply to them, see What is the Freedom of Information Act?

 


While the Freedom of Information Act only applies to public bodies, the Data Protection Act 1998, Part II, Section 7 gives the right of access to:

(i)the personal data of which that individual is the data subject,

(ii)the purposes for which they are being or are to be processed, and

(iii)the recipients or classes of recipients to whom they are or may be disclosed.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/29/section/7




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google search brings up that in 2015, a bill was " on its way" - but no sign it ever actually happened.

 also I recall another thread where staff answered "concerned teenager" with no we do not store a  record of sites visited

 technically, without also matching web requests to MACs, I cannot see how virgin can know any more that that a request came via the hub, they cannot identify the requesting device.

https://thenextweb.com/uk/2015/11/04/uk-bill-forcing-isps-to-store-users-browsing-history-to-be-publ...

Set to be published today, the draft Investigatory Powers bill will allow police and security forces to access these records, while councils will be barred from viewing them.

Home Secretary Theresa May says that these laws are needed to fight terrorism and will sufficiently safeguard citizens from abuse of power.

ISPs won’t have to store and disclose every page you browse, but they will have to keep a record of every domain you visit. So, if you’re being investigated, your ISP will have to show that you visited thenextweb.com, but not the individual posts and pages you browsed on the site.

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PS -  if something akin to that posted link gets implemented, then the " that was not me accessing that domain, it must have been a drive-by wifi connect on my guest network" defence still looks sound . 

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cybmole wrote:

google search brings up that in 2015, a bill was " on its way" - but no sign it ever actually happened.

 also I recall another thread where staff answered "concerned teenager" with no we do not store a  record of sites visited

 technically, without also matching web requests to MACs, I cannot see how virgin can know any more that that a request came via the hub, they cannot identify the requesting device.

https://thenextweb.com/uk/2015/11/04/uk-bill-forcing-isps-to-store-users-browsing-history-to-be-publ...

Set to be published today, the draft Investigatory Powers bill will allow police and security forces to access these records, while councils will be barred from viewing them.

Home Secretary Theresa May says that these laws are needed to fight terrorism and will sufficiently safeguard citizens from abuse of power.

ISPs won’t have to store and disclose every page you browse, but they will have to keep a record of every domain you visit. So, if you’re being investigated, your ISP will have to show that you visited thenextweb.com, but not the individual posts and pages you browsed on the site.


The Investigatory Powers Bill received Royal Assent on 29 November 2016, and here it is: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2016/25/contents

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigatory-powers-bill-receives-royal-assent

Schedule 4 of the act: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2016/25/schedule/4 provides details of public authorities and designated senior officers etc who have access to this data.

 




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thanks - is there a for dummies summary

has ISP data collection begun already & what's being stored ?

 maybe nothing yet as a quick scan of your link gives me 

Some of the provisions in the bill will require extensive testing and will not be in place for some time. The Home Office is developing plans for implementing the provisions in the bill and will set out the timetable in due course

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No "IP ACT for Dummies" that I can find, but here is some light reading on the subject.

https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2015/how-the-investigatory-powers-bill-will-affect-internet-ser...

http://www.whoishostingthis.com/blog/2017/01/02/investigatory-powers-act/

 




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