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Ok i have a rather large network at home, Plex server, smart tv's, I pads, I phones, Android Phones, Games consoles, Game Pc, Laptops, Rokus, Andriod box, and a couple of NAS drives.

Also have powerline adapters and an access point, baby camera and a couple of Netgear 8 way Switches plus a few other bits and bobs (Like the boiler) all connected both on Lan via switches or Wireless 2.4 and 5 Ghz

Im looking into putting my superhub into modem mode, buying a proper Router, one with better features and wireless range/functions.

 

Can anyone suggest or recommend one that works well for the ... thanks Smiley Happy

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I setup and monitor an Asus RT-AC3200 for a friend and it has excellent features and capabilities: https://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/RTAC3200/

It has 3 radios - two 5ghz and one 2.4ghz.

High gain antenna.

Universal and Standard beam-forming.

Advanced QoS.

The Traffic Analyser is very good and useful, with both device and app based breakdown of usage.

And a lot more.

 

Some wifi tests (bear in mind this is not in ideal conditions, but still everyone is happy with it and the signal strength they get on various devices):

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Modem-mode/m-p/3424368#M144314

 

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My experience...

I have a similar set up to you - multiple wireless devices, NAS, 4 PCs, PS4, XBOX, smart tvs, chromecasts, firesticks and fire tv, amazon echo, smart plugs, 5 powerline adapters, a couple of 8 port switches + wife and 2 teenagers.

Our house is large and has walls that, unfortunately, do a splendid job attenuating wifi. The SH2 is in my office at one end of the house and can't realistically be moved to a more central location. The SH2 wifi just did not reach our lounge, TV room or either kids' bedroom. I solved this by connecting a cheap second hand router to each remote powerline in the lounge, TV room and kids bedrooms (Sky routers from Ebay, 99p each).

This worked fine, 150Mb to the SH2  and around 60Mb from each remote wifi router. 

I had a few Amazon vouchers and decided to buy a Netgear AC1750 router and put the SH in modem mode. 

The Netgear router certainly gives better wifi performance than the SH but is still not good enough - in my house - to provide good coverage throughout the house. The interface is more flexible than the SH but once it's set up it's set up. So I still rely on the powerlines and SKY routers.

If I was going to make changes again I would look at a mesh network rather than a central router.

My tuppence worth.  

 

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sku11meister wrote:
To be fair I went to a friends house who had a google mesh system he had bought from America. It was actually amazing. Speed was constant throughout the house.

For the cost difference I think I will do the same. Not worth having a central router these days. I have access points connected via power line adapters and they work better and more reliable than any other method I have tried and believe me I have tried most methods available.

They're non-IPv6 though.

Depends if you want a non-techy solution with limited capabilities. I'm sure they're great for most people. Though there are alternative mesh networks out there.

Suggest you read this review first:

https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33038-google-wifi-reviewed

 

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I'm no expert regarding the choice out there but a couple of years ago when I decided to put my hub into modem mode I picked up a couple of recommendations for the Asus RT-AC68U and it has turned out to be an excellent choice.  I love the Asus user interface and I've found the Wi-Fi signal to be excellent.

Mind you, my needs are quite simple and I don't have a network anywhere near as large and complex as yours, so you might want to consider one of the more sophisticated (read more expensive) Asus models.   https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=asus+ac+router&...

 

 

********* SuperHub 2ac - Asus rt-ac68u Router - Vivid 100Mbps **********

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I setup and monitor an Asus RT-AC3200 for a friend and it has excellent features and capabilities: https://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/RTAC3200/

It has 3 radios - two 5ghz and one 2.4ghz.

High gain antenna.

Universal and Standard beam-forming.

Advanced QoS.

The Traffic Analyser is very good and useful, with both device and app based breakdown of usage.

And a lot more.

 

Some wifi tests (bear in mind this is not in ideal conditions, but still everyone is happy with it and the signal strength they get on various devices):

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Modem-mode/m-p/3424368#M144314

 

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If you've got a lot of devices in use then you'll want to enable the Adaptive QoS so that every device gets the best possible connection no matter what type of app they're running.

You can set an overall manual bandwidth limit of 75%-80% of your top tier speed to avoid the possibility of bufferbloat when the VM connection is maxed out.

This is what I did with my friends setup. The QoS is automatic so once it's enabled there's really nothing to fiddle with, except monitor how well everything is doing on the snazzy monitors.

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I particularly like when you click on a device on the Adaptive QoS screen, that not only can you see how much speed an individual device is using in real-time, but also see that speed broken down into Facebook, web browsing, downloads, youtube etc. Same with the Traffic Analyser for data usage. It really helps to debug your wifi network and check everything is working efficiently. And I'm doing this remotely!

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Currently £144 on Amazon (PC World still selling at £160, which is still a great price for such a good router).

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One major consideration when getting a 3rd party router is making sure that the router has more than enough processing power and memory for the number of devices you're using. In testing with 6 devices the dual-core CPU of the Asus barely ran from 1% to 10% max, with only 30% of the memory used, with Adaptive Qos and App traffic monitoring enabled.

As you add more devices, enable more features and do a lot more bandwidth usage you'll be happy that you have processing power and memory in plenty of supply.

You don't want your new router to overheat in the summer when it's busy! Cooling can be a major consideration, which many routers have a problem with. So make sure to keep it well ventilated. The fact you won't be maxing out the CPU should mean it stays cooler compared to a lesser model which you run hotter.

Plus there's the 3 year warranty. 

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