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Fifa 16 Input delay PS4

Hi there so im experiencing input delay for quite some time now, im using wired connection and will link a trace route also to EA's servers but my understanding is its P2P so should this effect the how the game plays?

My nat type is 2 and whenever i have tried to open ports in the past nothing changed.

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Re: Fifa 16 Input delay PS4

why do i have 4 nodes not  giving any data? can someone please reply

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This is my tracert from My Modem Mode setup.

The biggest issue seems to be US based, you get a good response to the EAST coast, but the link to the West Coast is bad. That's not a VM network.

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Re: Fifa 16 Input delay PS4

 but since the game connects people via P2P the servers shouldn't effect the in game performance tho right?

 

also i went out my way and bought myself a router and run the hub in modem mode and setup QOS because i had really bad bufferbloat which seemed to fix that issue but the games i had still lagged.

i just honestly haven't a clue whats causing, there's a thread with over 100 pages without a single response from EA about the lag/input delay.

so my only hope is to get help from my ISP which for the moment doesn't seem likely also.

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EA game networking is a mess in general, esp. their Fifa games. It's complained about by people world-wide on countless ISPs. Whether they have 1Mb to 1Tb Internet, the same complaints flow in about awful Fifa network performance.

When you experience input delays is it during when you're the host or the hosted? I ask because I remember reading that if you're the host, the game performance is artificially slowed down / performance impinged. So that it is a fairer game (I.E. to ensure it isn't the situation of the host doesn't run around with a <2 ms ping and the person has >=200ms delay.) The Fifa games reportedly would balance your ms to around that of the person connecting to your session

Also, with VM P2P traffic is slowed down by an unspecified amount during peak time hours, as is noted here: https://my.virginmedia.com/traffic-management/traffic-management-policy-30Mb-or-higher.html

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Yeah i mainly notice it when im host sometimes it plays decent when im the away team, and i play during the night and its still the same.

but seriously virgin media should be prioritising P2P gaming during peak anyways no idea why they would throttle it... 

 or at least set something up with EA's games since the games don't run on servers and there is probably thousands of people who play FIFA who are also with VM

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andyd123 wrote:

Yeah i mainly notice it when im host sometimes it plays decent when im the away team, and i play during the night and its still the same.

 


Then it is an EA issue; I've read other people complaining about the artificial slow down applied to the host, it's supposed to make the game fairer, but in some cases puts the host at a disadvantage Cat Sad

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Re: Fifa 16 Input delay PS4

I've got the same issue, makes the game unplayable ..

Here's my traceroute....

100ms ping at the end !! That's not good and the asterisk indicates packet loss ?

I'm going to try plugging the PS4 directly into the modem and not use home plugs/wifi ...see if that helps..but that's not viable as the PS4 is upstairs..


traceroute to easo.ea.com (159.153.234.54), 30 hops max, 64 byte packets
01 92.238.36.1 &lt;10.000ms &lt;20.001ms &lt;10.000ms
02 81.97.83.181 &lt;10.000ms &lt;10.000ms &lt;10.000ms
03 * * *
04 * * *
05 * * *
06 * * *
07 * * *
08 * * *
09 212.250.25.62 &lt;30.000ms &lt;10.000ms &lt;20.001ms
10 195.66.224.31 &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.001ms
11 72.52.60.200 &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.001ms
12 72.52.60.205 &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.000ms &lt;20.001ms
13 * * *
14 209.200.168.132 &lt;90.002ms &lt;100.001ms &lt;90.002ms
15 159.153.93.2 &lt;100.001ms &lt;170.003ms &lt;100.002ms
16 159.153.225.30 &lt;120.002ms &lt;170.003ms &lt;90.001ms
17 159.153.226.105 &lt;100.002ms &lt;90.002ms &lt;100.001ms
18 159.153.234.54 &lt;90.002ms &lt;100.001ms &lt;100.002ms
Traceroute complete.
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Re: Fifa 16 Input delay PS4


Louie7 wrote:
I'm going to try plugging the PS4 directly into the modem and not use home plugs/wifi ...see if that helps..but that's not viable as the PS4 is upstairs..

As the person who suggested you try a direct connection on the other thread I'd like to point out that I suggested it as a diagnostic test not a long term viable solution.  If this is indeed an EA issue or a VM routing issue then you should see no difference with a direct connection.  If however thing are better then you can start looking at your local setup and with some testing hopefully pinpoint the problem and look at ways to circumvent it.  When you add hardware between your console and the hub you are creating additional potential points of failure which it is always wise to remove from the equation before blaming your ISP or the game maker.

Also most gamers will advise against wireless for gaming, no matter who your ISP.

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