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cybmole
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blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties

An instant payment notification from PayPal is A.W.O..L.- It should have arrived within Outlook many hours ago ( silly of me to never get around to changing my Paypal primary address from blueyonder to gmail but so it goes.. - done that now - stable door ,horse, bolt, rearrange .)

when I go to my virgin media webmail to see it the missing blueyonder incoming mail has gotten that far & fallen afoul of the new improved spam filters, I get " we are having technical difficulties, come back later"). So what's all that about ?

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so two days later my email finally arrives. I have the headers if anyone case to decipher where ti was held up for 48 hours

I have xxxxx my name and senders name. dates in bold show that it's journey began on 10th Jan, arrived today 13th Jan, reached blueyonder not until 12th Jan ?

Return-Path: <member@paypal.co.uk>
Delivered-To: xxxxxx blueyonder.co.uk
Received: from md6.tb.ukmail.iss.local ([212.54.59.73])
by mc56.tb.ukmail.iss.local (Dovecot) with LMTP id 4nwyO27id1hFGgAAmVyaIQ
for < xxxxxxxx blueyonder.co.uk>; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:09:45 +0100
Received: from mx6.mnd.ukmail.iss.as9143.net ([212.54.59.73])
by md6.tb.ukmail.iss.local (Dovecot) with LMTP id IcsmGdmmsFa1IQAACKiK/Q
; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:09:45 +0100
Received: from mx0.phx.paypal.com ([66.211.168.230])
by mx6.mnd.ukmail.iss.as9143.net with bizsmtp
id XY9h1u00V4ybr3W01Y9jk3; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 21:09:45 +0100
X-SourceIP: 66.211.168.230
X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QagWhoTv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 b=1
a=h5xyAQKYR2W1ZM2pBhokyg==:117 a=h5xyAQKYR2W1ZM2pBhokyg==:17 a=F8Cq6iUUAAAA:8
a=fmD_JHji_u0A:10 a=y5smi7IwlAoA:10 a=IgFoBzBjUZAA:10 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8
a=qI-sqkvjAAAA:8 a=Ns6vSmXSAAAA:8 a=cvcLU2kimCqckf6uWfMA:9
a=VUi-fHbeJfkj_Yit:21 a=yjbdOWJnGkS_-9wW:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10
a=c7U7kdI0AAAA:8 a=mbZ05ln8AAAA:8 a=pwIP7ZobAAAA:8 a=QuVIBhbEEINvAHrInpMA:9
a=lJjyWxXTq110Y-gn:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=FBT7pZx6f7IA:10
a=ZkgbjnESPptuYqZ2pJbr:22 a=VWYBCMy2-3DvUfgBPAUA:22 a=xlR83nVjtxPxyDukIfpb:22
a=pWD9WnwaV-55-tVbWQgH:22 a=YufQWf_8iS0lRDiVaa-p:22 a=6ddO9Q2QWBdFg8Uo9XMB:22
a=7Hch-EpX9yOYQ3APR0_A:22 awl=host:12200
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=paypal.co.uk; s=pp-dkim1; c=relaxed/relaxed;
q=dns/txt; i=@paypal.co.uk; t=1484046182;
h=From:FromSmiley FrustratedubjectSmiley Very Happyate:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type;
bh=1rD70Hb1QxE5WGh9pt3zZFYCoEvtM7jNC/mfLid/Xp8=;
b=R9EBFoNSRViogY4rTTmuJJe6A/MMAqGs/tyLlyXXroGzYAKQkqXIyf3ROnpE2sXV
xQ044uwYbsSqZynykA99I4hyD80kqWM6unz03UrptnngOCpEIVLdaqiHQAHJGs5G
Qk50c7dTq53abIAJbAMPfhpEfytehYlixDDd6b9rLU27ykhdlFOMmZDx30yRAiQH
auhTPT1R/zaKZwLYgrWVvGluMxAac3nwvts46XttRRNlE9IWTbFxVWgHOTr9Z1Pd
8EmOeMdJV7X8gb2+Un3xtXgtXWro7X189g6afEm0+HC/lgxD7XCUnzPVdcoo4e8h
VQRTs16FdIWFFANv5v+IZw==;
Received: (qmail 20365 invoked by uid 993); 10 Jan 2017 11:03:01 -0000
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:03:01 -0800
Message-Id: <1484046181.20365@paypal.com>
AMQ-Delivery-Message-Id: EMAILDELIVERY-Notification_EmailDeliveryEvent-130-1484046175090-4102459151
X-PP-REQUESTED-TIME: 1484046172956
X-PP-Email-transmission-Id: 5650032c-d724-11e6-ac79-441ea14ddefc
PP-Correlation-Id: 30b5b52b6321b
Subject: Item no.xxxxxx - Notification of an Instant Payment Received
from xxxxxx (xxxx .co.uk)
X-MaxCode-Template: xpt/auction/AuctionPaymentNotification
To: xxxxx  blueyonder.co.uk>
From: xxxxxxx via PayPal <member@paypal.co.uk>
X-Email-Type-Id: PP753 - 30b5b52b6321b
Reply-To: xxxxxx 
X-XPT-XSL-Name: email_pimp/GB/en_GB/auction/AuctionPaymentNotification.xsl
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=--NextPart_048F8BC8A2197DE2036A
MIME-Version: 1.0

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Re: blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties

Hi cybmole,

I'm sorry about this as I'd thought our excessive rate-limiting times were a thing of the past. The reason for the delayed delivery is because the PayPal relay (mx0.phx.paypal.com 66.211.168.230) is blacklisted. 

However, the delay shouldn't take over 2 days. I'll happily get this investigated for you but shall require the full, unedited header.
Please send this by way of reply to my PM (purple envelope icon, top right of page) and I'll see what we can do about it for you.

Thanks,


Jen
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Re: blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties

ok -I will PM the uncensored one. blacklisting PayPal is surely not smart ?

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Re: blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties

It's not VM that's blacklisting them but looking at MXtoolbox it appears they are on SORBS SPAM blacklist.

Paypal need to investigate why and ask SORBS to remove the blacklist entry.

Ravenstar68

Edit - doesn't necessarily excuse the excessive rate limiting though.

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Re: blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties


ravenstar68 wrote:

It's not VM that's blacklisting them but looking at MXtoolbox it appears they are on SORBS SPAM blacklist.

Paypal need to investigate why and ask SORBS to remove the blacklist entry.

Ravenstar68

Edit - doesn't necessarily excuse the excessive rate limiting though.


is it up to teach ISP how to deal with servers on that blacklist, or would my paypal mail have been held up no matter what email address I was using ?

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Re: blueyonder email delays/ technical difficulties


cybmole wrote:

is it up to teach ISP how to deal with servers on that blacklist, or would my paypal mail have been held up no matter what email address I was using ?

It's up to each ESP - (Email Service Provider - sorry my pedantic head is on) - Options include, rate limiting, blocking entirely, or allowing the connection.  Note this is done before the server has even seen the mail.  As it's based on the servers reputation.

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